Returning Hope — Stem Cell Treatment in Asia

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by RaZaH, Mar 4, 2013.

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    1. RaZaH
      Not amused

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      I'm new and don't know if this has been discussed before .

      I'm looking into this medical center in Asia that does stem cell therapies.
      The cost is immense $18.000 , but for me at least I would pay twice that to regain my hearing and get rid of T. For that amount you get accomodation for you and one companion , the treatment takes two weeks. Apparently they take bone marrow, blood, fat, or skin and create cells from that. I haven't reasearched stem cell therapy that extensively so I'm looking to create a discussion on this . They do not guarantee results and like I mentioned the cost is pretty steep . Am I insane for even considering this ?

      http://www.returninghope.com/
       
    2. Grant1

      Grant1 Member

      I would be highly skeptical. Below is a link to a chapter from a book. The book excerpt was published in Scientific American. It discusses the progress on restoration of hearing through stem cells. The author of the excerpt estimates it will be 20 to 50 years before cochlear hair cells can be regenerated. The otoneurologist treating me told me last year the most optimistic estimates are that human testing could begin in ten years.

      http://www.scientificamerican.com/a...home-in-on-biological-ways-to-restore-hearing
       
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    3. RaZaH
      Not amused

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Thanks , yeah it seems highly unlikely that this would work. sigh,,
       
    4. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      I'm actually going to move this under "Alt. treatments", until such time as stem cells being a reality for hearing...

      Probably the earliest when I'm at a retirement home, if I get to live that long :)
       
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    5. mick

      mick Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2012
      While this is 3rd hand info from a doctor, I've been told that there are large numbers of people who have been harmed by stem cell treatments in Asia (mostly China). If the treatment does not place the stem cells in a specific place (i.e., if they just inject them into your bloodstream hoping they will get to the right place) then stay away. The practice of just injecting them into the blood stream is common in China and that approach is what causes problems because you can get the wrong kind of cells growing in the the wrong place.
       
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    6. Grant1

      Grant1 Member

      The good folks at the Stanford Initiative to Cure Hearing Loss are working on a cure for hearing loss are making progress every year. They recently reported progress being made on a process to image cochlear hair cells. For the stem cell process to work, there must be sufficient imaging techniques available.

      Another reason to be optimistic is the re-election of President Obama. I did not vote for him, but I fully support President Obama's efforts to encourage and support stem cell research, including embryonic stem cell research. We should be thankful for his support for stem cell research.

      Also, Stanford is getting some of the stem cell grant money from the state of California.

      http://hearinglosscure.stanford.edu/
       
    7. joejunior

      joejunior Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2001
      Its impossible to estimate when we get to human trials, but one thing you can say for sure is that the work is accelerating greatly. The project may be aiming high but that shouldn't be considered negatively, because one thing is for sure there are going to be all kinds of discoveries possibly including therapies discovered on the way to the ultimate cure, that can only be good. Stanford and others are looking ar stem cells, gene therapy, pharmacology etc.
       
    8. Mahdi
      No Mood

      Mahdi Member

      Location:
      Tehran
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2001
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Gunshot
      In this dog-eat-dog world how can miserable T sufferers can shell out $ 18 k for an unguaranteed treatment !?
      Even if it were guaranteed %100, I would have to sell off my life to go after such a treatment.
       
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    9. sworthi245
      Balanced

      sworthi245 Member

      Location:
      United States, Northwest Georgia
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/02/12
      My ninety year old Dad, who suffers from T and is about 70% deaf, and I have been discussing the medical advances taking place in the world around him. We have been reading about the printing of human body parts with the use of 3D printers. They recently printed the cartilage for the outside of a human ear. You can read about it at the following link if you have not already seen it.

      http://weill.cornell.edu/news/releases/wcmc/wcmc_2013/02_20_13-2.shtml

      He is hopeful that in his lifetime they will be able to print him a working hearing system again. With all of the medical advances he has seen in his lifetime, there has been such little progress with T and hearing loss. Maybe they will continue further into the ear now that they have the outside down pat. I know the stem cell regrowth is on the forefront, but is still a few years away. Interesting information at the following link:

      http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0046355

      I would say conservatism is the best option at the moment. I would not want further damage from experimental treatment that may not be reversible later on when it is tried and trued. Hang tight and wait for confirmation and proven results.
       
    10. Grant1

      Grant1 Member

      I hope your Dad lives to 110 years old. :)

      Your advice is sound. I am interested in seeing more results from the HIFU surgery for tinnitus in Europe. However, I would be cautious in undergoing it, knowing that other options may be available in the coming years. Same goes for the vagal nerve stimulation being developed by MicroTransponder.
       
    11. sworthi245
      Balanced

      sworthi245 Member

      Location:
      United States, Northwest Georgia
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/02/12
      Thank you! My Dad is quite the remarkable person. He still has all of his mental faculties, no arthritis, and about 90% of his own teeth. He still read two newspapers a day,, send a text better than I do, and beat most of his kids at reflex games on an IPad. I hope I do as well as him if I reach 90!

      I am sure his T started in WWII, from which he received a Purple Heart while on the USS Kidd (fully restored and stationed in Baton rouge, LA). He also worked in the carpet industry for 50 years with no hearing protection. He said to me recently that there are some days when he does not hear it at all. So, I guess that gives me hope that maybe one day mine will be unnoticeable.

      He has been contemplating a cochlear ear implant. The post about the advances in the programming are worth sharing with him. Unfortunately, it may be his best option at this point.
       
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    12. Grant1

      Grant1 Member

      Glad you read the article I posted about advances in programming for cochlear implants. I live about 80 miles from Vanderbilt.
       
    13. cmurem

      cmurem Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/05/2012
      maybe the answer is nano-stem cells which can go right points and regenerate.
       
    14. newarrior

      newarrior Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/1996
      I talked about this a lot with At the Edge of Science.I did a 2 hour Skype call with the head dr 2 weeks ago..They are proposing adipose stem cells by doing surgery to remove them from my stomach...Plus laser light therapy--and a bunch of other stuff...15K for 1st time one week incl hotel..
       
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    15. newarrior

      newarrior Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/1996
      I am concerned about cost and the surgery part plus any other side effects
       
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    16. raymundo2245

      raymundo2245 Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      3/10/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise induced
      So how did it go with edgeofscience? I havent heard from neither Markku or edgeofscience...
       
    17. gary
      Transparent

      gary Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Macomb, MI. USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Who Knows
      I would too would pay twice as much if it was 100% cure. Good Luck if you decide to try.....
       

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