The Decline of American Tinnitus Association's (ATA) Tinnitus Today Magazine

Discussion in 'Awareness & Fundraising' started by Luman, Aug 15, 2020.

    1. Luman
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      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Intermittent Tinnitus probably noise induced
      The official publication of the American Tinnitus Association (ATA) is Tinnitus Today. I used to subscribe, but eventually lost interest and didn't renew, because it became very repetitive.

      Today, perhaps a year after I received my last issue before the subscription died out, I received what I assume is a complementary copy, which contains a request for financial support.

      I don't like to complain about a freebie, but something is very wrong when a magazine that I had previously recommended, has sunken to new lows. This issue,Vol. 45, No.2, Summer 2020, has actually done this. The theme of this issue is, "Lifestyle Choices That Can Limit the Impact of Tinnitus", which can be found online, for free.

      Aside from general tinnitus related articles such as how to exercise, by a personal fitness coach, tinnitus and hearing loss, diabetes and tinnitus, COVID-19 and tinnitus, etc., and a completely misnamed article, "Can Marijuana Decrease Tinnitus Distress", which had not a single mention of tinnitus distress in it, and nothing of value in the rest of the piece other than the usual conclusion that more research needs to be done, to study whether marijuana is a help, or hindrance, to tinnitus.

      When I saw the name of tinnitus therapist Julian Cowan Hill listed, I thought that perhaps it was an expose of his claims to be able to relieve tinnitus through some kind of pseudoscience known as craniosacral massage, which naturally is very expensive and requires in-person visits. Instead, he is treated like a legitimate tinnitus therapist and expert. His current article isn't bad, about reducing stress due to tinnitus. The skull quackery isn't mentioned, the article is likely just bait, for desperate people who are willing to pay for just about anything that might help them, including methods that are unproven and not recommended by any legitimate medical authorities or organizations.

      I used to recommend this magazine, and although there's a few good articles to be found in this issue, the inclusion of an article by a known quack is clearly an indication that the organization has lost some of its integrity.
       
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    2. Gabriel5050
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      Gabriel5050 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure (most likely)
      This Julian Cowan Hill guy is a big time thief and scammer. The things I would say about him aren't really appropriate, so I won't say them. Just screw him. I rated his app one star on the Google Play Store.
       
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    3. AUTHOR
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      Luman
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      Location:
      Brooklyn
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Intermittent Tinnitus probably noise induced
      How the ATA could sink so low as to print an article by him, is mind boggling. Perhaps he is a generous donor to the organization.

      If anybody who is associated with the magazine is reading this, and would like to offer a rebuttal, please feel free to do so.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craniosacral_therapy
       
    4. Contrast
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      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      I am open to the possibility of craniosacral therapy defined as facial muscle massages helping due to evidence of facial muscles and nerves playing a role in tinnitus but I would like to see more science independently investigate and less shilling from Julian. Craniosacral therapy vs tinnitus needs independent, not public advertisement by the ATA.

      I was always hesitant to label Julian a scammer. Misguided thinking he has the answer yes. I don't have enough evidence to call him a scammer.

      Overall Tinnitus Today magazine is for boomers. 50+ (like this guy).

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    5. DaveFromChicago

      DaveFromChicago Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Headcold/Flu
      Thanks ever so much, Luman. I am seriously considering composing an E-Mail letter to be sent to the Editor-in-Chief of ATA magazine.

      In recent months I have mentioned that in two of Julian Cowan Hill's videos he said that when the words LOVE and HATE were written on tape and affixed to the exterior of a steel cooker, the force contained in the meaning of these words penetrated the cooker and actually changed the molecular configuration of the substances inside (the examples he gave were rice and ice).

      This is fully tantamount to the practices of phony psychics who promise that if you send them money they will tell you what the winning lotto numbers will be.

      I may also briefly notify them of some of his other egregiously, laughably pseudoscientific pronouncements and recommend that they visit this site and read Corinna's lengthy "Bad Experience With Julian Cowan Hill" commentary.

      In conclusion, I will state taking Julian Cowan Hill seriously indicates a shameful absence of scientific professionalism. Such worthless, unresearched reportage that can only serve to misdirect readers such that I cannot in good conscience ever consider being a subscriber.
       
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    6. Lilah
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      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      ATA seems more like a support group for sufferers, rather than an organization interested in research.
       
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      Luman
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      Luman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Brooklyn
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Intermittent Tinnitus probably noise induced
      I believe that he is a scam artist, beyond a reasonable doubt.
       
    8. Contrast
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      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      They are part of the reason Jastreboff rose to power. Dr. Nagler, William Shatner and the early ATA played a huge role in Jastreboff's growth in the mid 90's.
       
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    9. Gabriel5050
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      Gabriel5050 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure (most likely)
      I realized you can report people on YouTube that promote scams and spam. Craniosacral therapy and his app are scams, so I did report him. Of course, I doubt anything will happen. Doesn't stop me from trying.
       
    10. WillBeNimble
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      WillBeNimble Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Location:
      Ohio
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Damage from earphones
      Or even prevention and awareness. ATA should have a greater connection to HLAA and BTA, working towards greater awareness of hearing damage overall, in schools and beyond. Instead, they pushed Shatner and Jastreboff. If after the interview circuit Shatner did for tinnitus retraining, he had pushed for more awareness on hearing loss period, I could see him having helped way more people.
       
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    11. DaveFromChicago

      DaveFromChicago Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Headcold/Flu
      Very insightful, Contrast. Your comment describes exactly that historically destructive error wherein instead of habituation, TRT masking, etc. being regarded as only the barest palliatives they were much too advocated and in fact ballyhooed so that they became normalized and ensconced as a conclusive treatment that required no further research.

      Only within the last handful of years have researchers begun to break out of this entrenched assumption with the goal of real reduction and/or elimination.
       
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    12. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      Report a Trump supporter's channel in mass numbers and he'll be purged in a week. Do the same to real scammers and nothing will occur.
       
    13. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      April /1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I liked reading your post Luman and thank you.

      I stopped subscribing to the BTA Quiet magazine for very similar reasons to your own.
       
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    14. ajc

      ajc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
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    15. DaveFromChicago

      DaveFromChicago Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Headcold/Flu
      Thanks ever so much, ajc for providing this:

      Nearly every article has some sort of questionable, obvious (to the point of being stupefyingly banal) recommendations without any real scientifically established content. So much of it resembles the trite, unserviceable nonsense espoused by Julian Cowan Hill.

      I pray and so fervently hope that a real treatment is made available so that this entire industry of grifting charlatans and jackanapes will disappear the way the Oz's Wicked Witch of the West did.
       
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