Tinnitus Masking: In-Ear Maskers

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    1. aapeli

      aapeli Member

    2. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      From what I can see those in ear WNGs look professional and functional, but I don't have any first hand (or second hand for that matter) experience or expert knowledge.

      One plus side with those is that there is no cord. If you need white noise generators that are cordless and in your ear, then I think these look good. Otherwise, depending on the usage scenario, In Ear Monitors (Shure, Etymotic, Westone, Sennheiser etc) + an mp3 player would probably be good and you could even choose your own masking track to fit different situations.

      If I were you I would do a bit of googling and try and find if someone has posted a review or something somewhere.

      I personally dislike white noise (I think it's too harsh) and prefer a lot more nature sounds (like the one Jim provided here on Tinnitus Talk), but you probably like it if you are considering those?

      I wouldn't be surprised if someone here had more knowledge about WNGs than I do, so lets wait and see..
       
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    3. Crosstyx

      Crosstyx Member

      Hi There. Yes i have used one of these devices but found it to be rather annoying. Maybe i am just so used to the noises in my head !
       
    4. Svein

      Svein Member

      I would try some cheap bluetooth headphones first, and play white noise on my phone or iPod. I also like nature sounds better than white or pink sound.
       
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    5. Shelley

      Shelley Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/12
      Has anyone bought their own in ear/ outer ear white noise generators?
      I was thinking about getting some and attempting my own at home, TRT.
      Just wondering if anyone else has given this a go? Or what noise generators are best?
       
    6. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      Generally speaking I think WNGs tend to drown out the tinnitus noise too much, and in TRT it's essential you'll still hear the tinnitus over the sound enrichment part.

      And I personally don't like white noise that much, brown and pink noise sound better to me.

      You can try these here: http://simplynoise.com/
       
    7. Shelley

      Shelley Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/12
      Thanks Markku, I will have a look in to them.
      I'm currently listening to some brown noise, and your right it's a lot nicer than white noise!
      It's weird after a while I find I don't hear the noise and find myself turning it up to see if it is still playing.
      I wish I could tune out the ringing quite so easily..
       
    8. Karl

      Karl Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chicago
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2011
      Shelley -
      I wear General Hearing Tranquil OTE maskers. They generate a hissing white noise. The advantage of a masker over an IPod is, the maskers don't have ear buds; instead maskers have these little tubes which allow you to hear other things. Maskers are very small and are not noticeable, unless you are really looking for these little tubes.

      Like you, I don't hear the white noise - at least not today! I have a love-hate relationship with these things. Today I started wearing them again, after 2 months without wearing them. Seems that I wear them for 2 months, then I stop wearing them for 2 months,.....back and forth. This has become a cycle.

      I was bummed out this weekend about my tinnitus. Sometimes I get so focused on my tinnitus and how to fix it, I just give up. Today the masker seem to be helping my attitude.

      Yes, I have heard that pink noise is the best.
       
    9. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing

      Are the Tranquil OTEs really this expensive? $1300? http://www.rockandrollhearingtech.com/product_detail.php?pid=39&cat=4

      They do look good though. http://generalhearing.com/tinnitus/products/tranquil-simplicity-ote.html

      ...and unnoticeable!
       
    10. Karl

      Karl Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chicago
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      10/2011
      Markku -
      Yes, they're expensive: $900 per ear. I'm not sure if there are cheaper maskers.
       
    11. erik
      Breezy

      erik Manager Staff Benefactor

      Location:
      Washington State, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/15/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
      The cheapest maskers I know of are made by PureTone in the UK. Not sure how good they are but they are much cheaper than other makers. They do ship worldwide.
       
    12. Shelley

      Shelley Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/12
      Thanks Erik is that the Audimed ones? I'm looking at them now.
      The only issue I can see with them is the lowest they all go down to is 50 decibels, which seems quite loud to me?
      I only really want it very quietly in the background.
       
    13. Karl

      Karl Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chicago
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2011
      Erik -
      Good find. These Pure Tone "Behind The Ear" maskers look a lot like what I use. Could save a lot of money with this brand.

      Shelley-
      I didn't read "50 db minimum", but I only skimmed the adverstisement. I can turn my maskers down as low as possible. Not sure why Pure Tone would have a minimum. Is 50 db a maximum?

      The "Behind The Ear" is the best, in my opinion. Discreet, won't block the whole ear.
       
    14. Shelley

      Shelley Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/12
      Hi Karl,
      on the right hand side of each item theres a little drop down menu which say what db they go to, each one seems to have three settings, 50db, 60db or 70bd however one I saw went up to 95!
      I looked at the Tranquil make as well which start at 0db, are they the ones you have? I would prefer to get some of those, however they are a lot more expensive and I live in the UK and not sure if I can get a hold of them here.
      It would be a much cheaper option but I don't know if I would like only having the three settings.
       
    15. Karl

      Karl Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chicago
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2011
      Shelley -
      Yeah, it's probably not a good idea to use maskers that are so loud you'll go deaf!

      I agree that my Tranquil maskers seem to be too expensive. They go down to 0 db, which I never considered to be such a big deal. Gee, I never realized that I have the "Mercedes Benz" of maskers!

      Strange that the Pure Tone has a loudness limitation. If you can try them out, that may be the best thing. Could it be that what you saw as "50 db, 60 db...." are only markers for a variable slider, not fixed settings?

      We need William Shatner - Mr. "Priceline.Com" - to find the cheapest maskers.
       
    16. just1morething
      Benevolent

      just1morething Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      barotrauma from airplane descent, noise exposure? ETD? TMJD?
      I did not no if this subject was brought up before, so I thought it might be worth discussing. I do not need hearing aids for hearing, and the ReSound Alera that I am trying has a masker that sounds almost like my tinnitus, a hissing sound.

      Someone on another forum uses maskers instead of hearing aids and I was considering going that route. I know that there are White Noise Generators (WNG) that some people use to mask their tinnitus, but I have never seen one.

      Apple's iPod is bluetooth capable as well as their nano. I am sure Samsung has bluetooth also. The sound quality of my hearing aid bluetooth is poor.

      Has anyone had experience with using a WNG, or a bluetooth device for your white noise? Is the sound quality as good with bluetooth as with wired earphones?
       
    17. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      Puretone has some nice and discreet-looking white noise generators: http://www.puretoneretail.net/tinnitus.html

      See those MM* products down the page, e.g. http://www.puretoneretail.net/mm10.html

      They also make custom made WNGs (from an exact impression of your ear), more here: http://www.puretone.net/pt_custom_tinnitus.html

      They are UK-based however, so I don't know about the availability in the US... but I would assume there are similar devices being sold in the US?

      If you like the sound of white noise, I think this type of masker could work well for you.
       
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    18. just1morething
      Benevolent

      just1morething Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      barotrauma from airplane descent, noise exposure? ETD? TMJD?
      Thanks Markku,

      What do you think of a bluetooth headset or earphones? They would not be as discreet, but you could play a wide variety of sounds.

      Are there behind the ear WNG in the U.S.?
       
    19. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      Something like this?
      http://store.apple.com/us/product/H9763VC/A/jaybird-freedom-sprint-bluetooth-headphones?fnode=49

      Pair those with your iPod and you can enjoy all sorts of masking tracks.

      For everyday use I think the Puretone type dedicated white noise generators are in some cases better; no fiddling with bluetooth and no wires of any sort (with the above bluetooth headphones the two earphones are connected to each other via a wire).
      That is, if one likes white noise - I find it harsh and would not like to listen to it for hours on end.

      Bluetooth headphones may be the best choice for you.
       
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    20. Relic Hunter
      Cynical

      Relic Hunter Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/1990
      I sleep with a fan running and a sound machine..As for maskers I use a pair of hearing aid style manufactured by GENERAL HEARING. These have only a volume control and produce a white noise similar to bacon frying. I do not know the cost of these as they were supplied by the Vets. Ad.

      These hearing aid style maskers have been a life saver on the bad days. I sometimes even wear them to bed but they are not recommended for such..I was advised to always keep the volume of the maskers lower than the T. as the tinnitus will try to outdo the maskers.
       
    21. Neenie
      Depressed

      Neenie Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2013
      Hi all.
      I've heard that you can get maskers for your tinnitus that look like hearing aids. Do any of you know what they look like? Are they basically just white noise generators? Is there a website that shows or describes these? I did ask my audiologist a while back and she brushed it off and said, oh dont worry about that. Yer thanks. You try and life a day in my shoes and then tell me again not to worry about that.
       
    22. Relic Hunter
      Cynical

      Relic Hunter Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/1990
      I have a pair provided by the VA so I have no idea of cost..White noise which sounds sort of like bacon frying..Simple volume control on the aid..Fit behind the ear and have a tube that goes into the ear canel. Different lengths of the sound tube are available to allow a custom fit. These are not custom fitted as in molding to fit your ear canel.. Uses small size hearing aid style batteries.

      I believe these can be custom programed as to noise freq. They have a style that is more adaptable to long term wear such as while sleeping. I would prefer this style if I were buying them. Mine are not recommended to wear while sleeping but I do sometimes. They have proved to very durable as I have forgotten and taken a shower with them in and got them soaked..Let them air dry for awhile and ready to go again.

      My VA audiologist said to always keep the volume of the masker lower than the tinnitus as the tinnitus will try to override the masker and the T will only become louder..

      Made by GENERAL HEARING, Instruments,Inc.

      They are on the web but I do not have their address at present.
       
    23. Neenie
      Depressed

      Neenie Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2013
      http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1387665247/Perfect_8_Channel_Tinnitus_Masker_Hearing.html
      how about this one? Yer, i tend to try to mask out the tinnitus as much as possible which im not sure if thats the best. because surely you cant get used to a sound that you cant hear very well. I'm still hoping for a miracle that it goes away but i really dont think thats going to happen. sigh. how long have you been using maskers? did you try any other methods like Neuromonics?
       
    24. carol kane
      Wishful

      carol kane Member

      Location:
      Lincolnshire united kingdom
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/13
      Hey Neenie, i sent you a nice post, did you see it???
       
    25. Neenie
      Depressed

      Neenie Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2013
      Hi Carol. Yer I did. Thanks :) I'm really sad because I'm going to have a bad Christmas because of the stupid tinnitus. I'm still so angry at myself that apparently it's my own brain that is keeping it there. I just don't believe that if I changed my thinking that it would go away, or that I wont care about it. How the hell can you not care that you have a loud ringing in your ear? When people tell me to not devote attention to it, I think "HOW??" Yes, I guess if you keep yourself busy you notice it less but how unfair is it that we are never allowed to be lazy ever again. Or unable to read a magazine in peace of a book, and unable to do yoga or meditation, or anything relaxing really. We were gonna go on holidays to Bali but I cancelled because I know I would have a crap time so it's not worth it. I just hope I magically die in my sleep soon. Well no, that's a lie. I totally don't want to die. I just want it all to stop. Enough already!
       
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    26. carol kane
      Wishful

      carol kane Member

      Location:
      Lincolnshire united kingdom
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/13
      I know Neenie, i feel exactly the same way ... I´m dreading Christmas,everyone laughing and joking, and me just looking at them with a trembling lip and tears in my eyes, well i´ll be getting drunk and then going to bed... so i´ll think of you knowing i´m not the only one hating that day ... God help us both. x
       
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    27. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      I also have to keep up this facade of happiness.
       
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    28. Lynnette
      Blah

      Lynnette Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Aug 2013
      Hey Neenie,
      There are tinnitus clinics out there that may be able to give you more info one what is available to you in terms do masking or tinnitus retraining therapy. I went to one in NC, Duke Tinnitus Clinic. They test your tinnitus level, try to match the sound you hear and then see if you're a candidate for the masking (I wasn't yet since my t got louder after listening to a test for a minute straight). It's a pain, I totally understand. I've had t in both ears since August and it has disrupted my life considerably. Im trying to learn to cope with it, using noise machine when sleeping, and I also started am ssri which is helping me move on and just deal with it (I was experiencing anxiety and depression as well though).
       
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    29. Relic Hunter
      Cynical

      Relic Hunter Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/1990
      I so wish that the holidays would soon be over. I never attend family get to gathers anymore and cannot stand getting out in all the noise and traffic. It makes me a nervous wreck.
      I guess everyone thinks I am a wimp or just crazy but it has been a long time since I really give a damn what people think. Let them suffer a few Christmases with this and see how jolly they are.
       
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    30. gary
      Transparent

      gary Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Macomb, MI. USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Who Knows
      Neenie, you need to find another audiologist, call around and ask if they sell and set up hearing aid masker combo's like the MoxI Kiss E made by Unitron. That is what I have, it works very well.
       

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