Tinnitus News

I listen to Eddie Trunk. In yesterday's podcast he talks about having tinnitus approx 10 years back and luckily habituated. How it can drive you batty. He talks about Paul Gilbert and how it is no joke. Nonsense about macho metal musician who say if you have to use hearing protection, you are weak or too old.

 

I have seen videos of James Hetfield (Metallica) taking his daughter to the stage on a live concert and she was wearing earmuffs.

And Lars Ulrich (Metallica's drummer) also wears hearing protection when practising or performing live. Apparently he has bad tinnitus, but continues playing.

 

I wish I knew how. Because even with protection, I had a bad reaction. Vibrations from what I understand. That was just when I played to tracks. Never mind jamming with other loud musicians.

I hope they do figure out why some suffer, habituate, or best not bothered by it @ all.

 

That old school mentality died out a while back. People are far more hearing savvy nowadays and they tend to listen to mixes at lower levels in the studio as well. The last producer I worked with had earplugs on a key fob incase he had to go into the live room.

I always liked this quote from CJ on the Tinnitus Talk Podcast page:



While I was there I saw this as well which is what I just mentioned above:

This may be a thing, but I don’t think it is. Everyone is very open about their fucked up hearing from my experience; it’s not hidden at all, and there are plenty of interviews both on film and in print where artists talk about their hearing issues in detail. It’s usually just a case of whether they are asked about it or not.

I can’t say I’ve noticed this much either. If someone fucks up their hands, shoulders, or some other part of their body that they need to play, then they are usually pretty vocal about it. It’s no different to a sports star saying they’ve got an injury or niggling problem.

 

How do these people cope with "bad tinnitus"? I am sure that if they suffered that badly, they would publicise their torment - or would if they were concerned about preserving others from this.

Personally, I think that if an accomplished performer has tinnitus that is not particularly intrusive (aware of it, annoying at times, but not particularly limiting), and they do not have to worry about earning a living, they could afford to quietly go about their business, looking for something to help, but not feeling the need to raise public awareness of the issue. Some could continue to record/practise, taking precautions and doing what else they can to make things a little easier; perhaps work towards habituation, drink, take drugs.

I don't care either way, though it is a shame that this condition is not massively publicised by those that have such a platform to do so.

 

I have read interviews with musicians and they said they had hidden these problems, and only give interviews when they retire or are about to retire, or rich enough not to care about it...

However, there are tons of musicians who tour with big bands but are not on regular payroll. They need to work, and they hide all these conditions, issues with their hands, and hearing issues, because even if they can adapt and play, other musicians do not want to hire them to play in their bands.

They want to hire someone who is in perfect shape to play.

 

I agree with this and used to question why famous people weren’t more outwardly vocal about it. It’s the same across the board, though, and no matter what industry people work in and whether they are famous or not, nobody seems interested in creating awareness about it. It’s just one of those things.

There could be some truth to this, I don’t know, and I’m not gonna pretend to be a purveyor of all things music. I’ve just never noticed it myself or heard others talk in this way. Usually, if someone has a problem, they just tell you as one’s reputation is far more important in the long run, and if you’re playing like shit because of an injury, then I’d rather admit to the injury then blame it on my playing.

When my tinnitus worsened, I told everyone straight away about it; I put it out there on the grapevine so to speak. But, I was still getting calls all the time asking if I’d dep for someone or work with their band, etc. Basically, it didn’t stop people trying to hire me even though they knew I was fucked. I suppose it was both heart-warming and annoying at the same time. Musicians are highly networked beasts, and when you get to know people who are good, and reliable, you tend to go after them as there’s a lot of time wasters out there.

 

Spot on.

 

Those musicians have good genes.

If not, they would never been able to play after 5 years since they started in some crappy garage facility.

I know a drummer with mild tinnitus.

Got it at a very bad gig situation 20 years ago. Improved in about 6 months.

Always earplugs since then. No issues so far.

 

Those musicians don't tell others about their hearing or hands problems because there is a prejudice about it and others do not want to play with them.

It is not a matter of not being able to play properly. It has to do with prejudice and suspicion by others of a diminished ability to play, or a change in the way they play guitar for instance, due to that muscle and tendon problem I referred to before...

 

I’ve never come across prejudice of this nature before, and it’s not something I’ve ever heard being discussed. Musicians tend to surround themselves with people they trust, and friendships are often built. If someone is struggling, it would usually be a case of, “let us know when you’re better.” Dep players can be used in your absence.

I’ve been out for 7 years, but I could join a band tomorrow or do session work if I wanted to. The door never closes. That’s why I don’t understand the logic behind the injury idea. If one is genuinely in a bad place then they would be better off not playing. At the moment, I'm happy just teaching.

Bear in mind, this is just my experience. You could have a point as we have to contend with different countries and cultures.

 

I was that drummer with mild tinnitus lol. Seriously stable straight tone tinnitus Is a fart in the wind. I’m willing to bet most musicians have that kind. Your tinnitus doesn’t even get louder after playing, or if it does, it’s just momentarily. If musicians had noise pain or distortions while playing, with erratic tinnitus waking them through the night they would all quit.

 

Lower glutamate and GABA levels in auditory cortex of tinnitus patients: a 2D-JPRESS MR spectroscopy study

A main focus of the loss-of-inhibition hypothesis in tinnitus is the role of γ-amino butyric acid (GABA), an inhibitory neurotransmitter, which, among others, is responsible for maintaining the balance between excitation and inhibition. Furthermore, GABA is found at many levels of the auditory pathway. Insufficient inhibition due to lower concentration, altered distribution in the tissue, or changed receptor density or affinity of GABA could thus be a cornerstone in the development of tinnitus.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-07835-8

 

100 dB! Still?

 

Kate Yukhnovich, who's actually recruited here on this forum for research under Will Sedley, has just accepted a £75,000 donation from the Northumberland Freemasons.

The donation will fund her own research into developing a test for tinnitus using EEG.

Newcastle University researcher given £75,000 grant to investigate hearing condition which affects millions

 

WHO: Pfizer vaccine potentially linked to hearing loss

 

Let’s hope enough important people get hearing loss / tinnitus so we can get a cure before 2030.

 

Neurosoft Bioelectronics Receives Nearly $3 Million in Funding

 

"The application of low frequency, repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation initiates inhibitory cortical mechanisms, resulting in a down-regulation of Glu in the auditory cortex of the left hemisphere and a significant reduction in tinnitus loudness levels."

True?

 

Here's another one - In-Depth: Why California's vaccine mandate presents 'impossible choice' for some with tinnitus

 

The Last of Us Remake (10/10 superb btw) is the latest upcoming video game to have the option to remove tinnitus sounds.



PlayStation Studios is pretty much the only division in the industry that seems to care about this kind of stuff. Expanded accessibility options just keep getting better and better.

 

Today's news:

3M earplugs unit files for bankruptcy amid lawsuits from military veterans

 

That Elon Musk is priceless as a clown...

I would like to bet with him a modest sum, within my means, because I believe he will not be able to cure tinnitus in 5 years. No way.

 

Elon Musk, being detached from the woes of the average person, I can't help but feel he doesn't really think Neuralink is going to succeed out of anything more than trying to inflate his short term wealth. I hope Neuralink will work, but I just don't have confidence in the man acting as its voice.

 

I found this article. Looks like our noisy menace is getting a little more attention.

Study: Tinnitus is widespread, deserves more attention from researchers

 

My earache was actually a potentially fatal maggot infestation (nypost.com)

 

Posting this Twitter comment from Dr. Anthony Hinton here because I CAN NOT be arsed interacting with a single other "correlation isn't causation" dipstick.

 

Inarguable.

Still, where did Hinton get the idea that tinnitus is even marginally treatable?

 

In very recent news, this is an article about a possible link between COVID-19 shots and tinnitus.

Possible links between Covid shots and tinnitus emerge
People who have developed life-altering ringing in their ears after Covid vaccinations demand deeper investigation into this potential side effect.