Feedback Tinnitus Talk Audio Player

Masking doesn’t really work for me too well, but I think this helps.

The Tinnitus Talk Audio Player has some great sounds.

Thank you Markku and all, for a unique web site.

 

Thank you Markku. I like river and cicada.

 

I've been listening to the "Musical Neuronmodulation" sounds with headphones and my tinnitus almost disappears during the session. About 90% !!! My tinnitus is the high pitched "TV hissing" kind of sound, different pitches in each ear. A big THANK you to whoever came up with this !!!!!!!!!!!! It's not the usual masking sound is it? Anyone else have some sounds or a website with sounds like this?

 

Nice! Do you have a link to what you're listen to?

 

I'm in love with the audio player it helps me focus on reading instead of my T and it doesn't bother my H. The audio player is a beautiful thing indeed

 

You know, it's such an under-used feature. We really thought it would be massive for people when we added it too.

Thanks for the feedback, we keep meaning to add some tracks to it so now we have a reason to do that. Which ones work the best for you?

 

I'm surprised more people don't use it, maybe they don't realize it's there?
The ones I find myself going back to are "birdsong and water" and "small river waterfall"

 

I do not know about it. How do I access it? Thanks.

 

Underneath "new replies" on the the right of the main page there's a green button for the audio player.

I've got a few more recordings of water so I'll get to mixing them down and add to the playlist.

 

@Steve Found it. I love it! The purple noise seems to be close to the sound of my T. I also like the birdsong and water. What do you recommend for listening time, etc.? This is a great feature. Thanks @amanda for commenting on the audio player. I will definitely use it now that I know it is there. Thanks for providing it Steve!

 

@svintegrity No recommendations for listening time, it's just sound enrichment to take your mind away from the tinnitus.

@Amanda~ I will ask my tech wizard to add a couple of extra tracks to it now, both with water sounds. @Markku could you please oblige? (in our Gdrive, both 8 min MP3)

 

Steve, I have to thank you. Musical neuronmodulation file saved me in the past when T was bothering. The only way to calm down it (15 min. listening was enough)

 

@Steve I am listening to the audio player on my iPhone plugged into a bigger sound system. Is that okay? You have quite a variety on the playlist. Since my surgery, I can use audio. Before my surgery, any more noise just made the T worse. Thanks for providing the audio player on the site!

 

@Carlo and @Steve I like the musical neuromodulation file too. Steve, is this something that you developed? Impressive!

 

@Markku I like the water and noise. Thanks!

 

Yes. Based on the theory of acoustic neuromodulation, just playing with musical tones with same timings. Seems to work for a lot of people who've tried it - one day we should do some research with it to see if it really helps over time.

You can listen to the tracks any way you like, nothing particularly special about them that needs to be heard in a certain manner. It's the way that feels best to your ears that counts.

@Carlo I'm very pleased to hear it has helped you; it works for me, seems to flatten my tinnitus and make it less bothersome for a bit.

 

@Steve I think some future research on musical neuromodulation would be fascinating. You did an amazing job with this file. I like your approach of what feels good to the ears as the key point. Thank you so much for sharing these files. I have been enjoying experimenting with them.

 

These are really great masking tones! Mine is also close to the purple noise. Could be because I also have mvc? But this sound (purple noise) in not pulsatile, is it?

 

If you imagine white noise, which is equal across the whole frequency spectrum, you then cut / boost parts of that to get different coloured noise.

Purple noise looks like this if you analyse the frequency, cutting out low frequencies and getting louder the higher the frequency.

 

@Steve and @Markku The audio player is such a great resource! Thank you so much for making it available to TT. I spent last evening listening to the different files. To my surprise, some of them actually mask my noise now. Prior to surgery, it was utterly unmaskable.

The Birdsong and Water is one of my favorites, and the purple noise completely masks my tinnitus. Does that mean that purple noise will help with my H?

I appreciate the visual on the frequency range of violet noise. It gives me a better understanding of the different colored noise. I am assuming that purple noise and violet noise are the same?

 

I also played each of the files on the Audio Player for my husband. He is teaching a unit on Neuroscience soon. He plans to show a video of my surgery and have the students do the vestibular exercises. He was excited about the Audio Player and plans to use the files in his Neuroscience unit. He was an electronics technician in the Air Force and has a good understanding of the frequencies, etc. He joins me in being amazed and grateful for the service you provide through Tinnitus Talk. He especially liked Musical Neuromodulation, and thinks his students will really like it too.

@Amanda~ If it weren't for your post, I would have completely missed out on this valuable resource. Thank you so much!

 

@skoupidis No, the purple noise is not pulsitlie. It is more broadband. Correct me if I am wrong @Steve

Thanks!

 

I've got a number of files and other things that use audio techniques so I can send some more if it's helpful.

Violet and purple are the same, just different names - I prefer using purple as the name. And as you said no it isn't pulsatile, either in sound or as a treatment.

The traditional treatment for H is pink noise, which is quite opposite in principle to purple noise. It boosts the lower frequencies and cuts the high, working on the principle that H usually gives a sensitivity to high frequencies. It looks like this:

 

@Steve I just measured my T with a tone generator. Before surgery, I was at a constant 4 kHz. Post surgery I am at about 1.7 kHz. What would that mean for audio therapy? Is there a certain audio track on the Audio Player, or type of noise you would recommend?

 

That's quite a big drop, over an octave in pitch.

In my untrained opinion I would think about how to interrupt the noise. It seems to be moving as response to removing the cause so it makes sense to try and interrupt the signal. Acoustic Neuromodulation as a technique aims to interrupt the signal and expects the tinnitus tone to change so it seems like a reasonable way to approach it. There are four variations you can try in our downloads section, see if they have an effect for you, flattening or lowering tinnitus. Find them here https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/neuromodulation.7700/

In general I would probably treat it like you have just got tinnitus and use what you can to ignore the sound, to stop it from taking hold in the brain.

 

How can you measure your T?

 

@NiNyu You can go to onlinetonegenerator.com and download it onto your phone or iPad. There are several others, but this is the one I used. I also had my T measured at a Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Clinic. I compared the results from the Clinic to what I got on the tone generator and they were the same. But after surgery, my noise has reduced a complete octave. @Steve may have a better suggestion for a tone generator though.