Transdermal Scopolamine Patches Give Me Relief

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    1. Bobby B
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      Bobby B Member Benefactor

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      If they contain 1.5 mg of scopolamine than that's the same

      Today I removed the patch and my t is up again so it did work as a temporary relief I would think

      I'll do 3 days on and 3 days off or use it whenever I really need it
       
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    2. nills
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      seems like this is one of the most dangerous drugs in the world :)

      World's Scariest Drug (Documentary Exclusive)


      Here is am experience with the patches on erowid.org (best drugs data base of the world)

      https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=36749

      DOSE: 2 transdermal Scopolamine (patch)

      BODY WEIGHT: 135 lb


      First, let me give you a little background information on how this all happend. This happend to my mother on a cruise that we had all decided to take for a family trip. We had all gotten some scopolamine patches from the pharmacist, which is suppost to help with motion sickness. She was waring one on her neck and aparently after a day or so thought it came off in the shower, when it had infact fallin on her back. She put on another patch on her neck unaware of the other patch. She began complaning about being very clostrophobic(My mom's clostrophobic anyway so I dont know if that would affect anyone else, but she was REALLY noticing it) and her eyes had become dilated somewhat. Within several hours she began halicunating and was walking around our cruse ship in a dreamy state having mild haliculitations. She almost walked right off the boat! After removing the patches she returned to normal within the next day or so. It was very strange and at the time we thought nothing about it, untill i came across scopolamine on this site. I also recall myself having touched one of the patches and then rubbing my eye, which caused it to be dilated for several days. No other side affects though. I hope this helps you.
       
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    3. Bobby B
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      No hallucinations for my sadly

      but yes I would not overdo do it - this story is an elderly lady who did two . body weight and metabolism plays a role too.

      Anyway this is just a temporary relief and there may be a rebound effect afterwards who knows . My t is up in force now but I also do the laser which is supposed to increase t at first so dunno we'll see
       
    4. nills
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      I`m willing to try it though.. if it helps and is safe when you use it right.

      You are using it at the moment?

      Any differences is character? attention span, intelligence, ... stuff of this kind?
       
    5. valeri

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      I feel really helpless at the moment!
      Anything that comes up as promising for tinnitus goes crashing down as possibly very dangerous!
      Far out!
      Is there an end to this hell!
       
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    6. Bobby B
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      Did not notice anything particular while on it but after removing the patch I had a few moments where my sense of balance felt poor when I closed my eyes - never had this before . This has been documented as one of the withdrawal side effects , and t seemed up quite a bit... Second day after removing the patch is fine though so again nothing "permanent " one way or the other
       
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    7. Dubbyaman
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      I agree. Can't seem to find a break.
       
    8. just1morething
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      Scopolamine patches seem worth a shot. I ordered some the other day and will update.
       
    9. Dubbyaman
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      Its just sad that self experimentation and trading notes and suggestions on here is all there is. Sad is the wrong word. Its unbelievable actually.
       
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    10. Bobby B
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      Bah let's see this in a positive way - at least we can have fun experimenting

      As far as scop patches goes - be ready for a noticeable spike in t during 2 to 3 days after removing the patch . Like Twice as loud as before using it .
      Not sure if this is a real long term solution unless you use patches all the time but then again you will run into more serious health issues since those aren't designed to be used for months and months
       
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    11. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Hmm; I've only noticed a very mild, if any, change in my T from these patches... but I also have not noticed any significant rebound. Interesting.

      When this spikes for you, how long does the spike last?
       
    12. ruben ruiz

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      Please do yourself a favor. Check the side effects of the patches.
       
    13. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      ...they appear to be exactly the same as the listed side effects of diphenhydramine (benadryl), doxylamine succinate (unisom), or any other early-generation antihistamine, which is exactly what I'd expect? What are you stabbing at here?

      Yes, any of these drugs are capable of producing pretty radical and unpleasant shifts in consciousness if you take a lot more than you're supposed to, but what of it?
       
    14. Bobby B
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      I had absolutely zero side effects while on the patch

      After removing it - very slight loss of balance at times when eyes closed and temporary increase of t
       
    15. Atlantis

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      More people need to try these patches so we know if they work!
       
    16. Jahhsoul
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      I think I will try this soon. Can someone organise the data like in retigabine post (maybe a shorter formulary?).

      In my opinion, all treatment-threads should contain them :)
       
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    17. Dubbyaman
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      More people with T need to take it more seriously and NOT think its no big deal and get their asses on here and strengthen the fight towards a cure.
       
    18. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      I think people who are doing fine with their T and not thinking about it very much would be doing themselves a great disservice to start thinking about it more...
       
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    19. Dubbyaman
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      Its doing the disorder a disservice to more severe sufferers because the people with mild t arent speaking up. You dont just sweep problems under the rug.
       
    20. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      *shrug* I guess we'll just have to disagree on this.

      To be a little more on topic here; these patches might cause some very mild symptom reduction for me, but that's the best I can say after using 4 of them over a 2 week period.

      I might take another shot at them in a few months, but in the mean time I need to limit my use of such things so that I don't fuck up the results of the research trial I'm in right now.
       
    21. Atlantis

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      Cancer survivors who are in full remission still tend to advocate for the other more serious cancer types.

      Tinnitus sufferers not so much!! Mild tinnitus people don't give a sh*t about those who are worse off.
       
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    22. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      I just do not get all this anger at people who have mild forms of this condition.

      Anyone who survives cancer has a strong understanding that they dodged a bullet. There isn't really such a thing as "mild cancer". On the other hand, run-of-the-mill, hear-it-only-in-perfect-silence tinnitus is very common, and most people who have it probably think about it consciously twice a month, if that.

      What do you want from such people? How does it benefit them to spend a lot of time thinking about this? More importantly, how does it benefit us?

      And, for what it's worth, "don't give a shit about those who are worse off" is, in my personal experience, a completely untrue characterization... I have encountered nothing but empathy and best wishes from such people. I'm not saying that my experience invalidates yours, only that you're expressing an opinion based on your personal experience, and it may not be true of the world in general.
       
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    23. Dubbyaman
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      You can disagree all you want but fact is fact. I guarantee you if more people would have spoken up about this in the past, we'd be in a better place today with it.
       
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    24. Dubbyaman
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      Thank you! Well said!
       
    25. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      I don't see any facts here, just opinions...
       
    26. Dubbyaman
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      lol you nailed me on that one...No. What im saying is yeah, of course you don't wanna focus on it if its mild. That would be stupid but at least acknowledge that its a problem. Then again, I dont know. I don't know what the answer is. I do see your point tho. Thats what makes my point difficult.
       
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    27. Blackbird26

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      The more time spent on this site, the more focus you give it. Go out and live your life the best you can. If I had it mild, I wouldn't be on on this site much. What can they do anyways? Yea..they probably don't give a shit and why should they? They don't have the answers lol..in fact they probably don't want a constant reminder of how bad it can get!
       
    28. Karl28
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      we really need to get back on topic
       
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    29. Cheza
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      You posted this on January 3, 2016. Did you have any success with the patches?

      @Bobby B - Are you still using the patches and getting some relief, or have you decided that it's not giving you any benefit?

      BTW, I came to this thread looking for info on Benadryl. Recently my tinnitus has periodically gone way beyond the pale in volume and intrusiveness every three or four nights (ACRN treatment side effect?). Yesterday was hell, and last night was Satan screaming at me in hell. I have no funds for a doctor and need to find something inexpensive that will help me when it gets this bad.
       
    30. linearb
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      scopolamine patches seem to maybe do a little bit, and also make me feel pretty wacked. Benadryl does neither of these things.
       
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