University of Minnesota Tinnitus Research with Acoustic and Body Stimulation

Discussion in 'Research News' started by kelpiemsp, Apr 2, 2018.

    1. parsky

      parsky Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      8/1/17
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Be careful by just saying it takes xx db of sound pressure to mask your T. It really depends on the spectral content of the noise. If you have 13khz T it is a lot harder to mask than 1khz because of the frequency spectrum of the noise sources. Download an app like Decible X and look at the FFT of various environments and you will see what I mean. Most places have higher amplitude low frequency noise than higher. I’m just saying this isn’t a good metric to compare with. Rather it would be better to figure out high how on the fft the adjacent frequencies need to be to mask the T. This would give a better idea of the overall volume of the T.
       
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    2. RODRIGO

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      05/2013
      In addition, when the frequency of tinnitus is higher, it is very likely that you will have greater hearing loss in that frequency, so even if you have a tinnitus of 25 db, your ears need many more decibels of sound than the 25 db that sound in your head to mask that tinnitus ...
       
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      kelpiemsp
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      Tinnitus Since:
      birth/ recent spike 2/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Born with ETD, several acoustic traumas, most recently ETD
      I was able to get a mask using a broadband frequency tuned to my hearing loss (or lack thereof) as part of the trial. It's a very important consideration that they have taken into account when they measure my minimum masking level. I was able to catch a peak at the values so I know my estimates were on, but good suggestions for others!
       
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    4. Manny
      In pain

      Manny Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Tinnitus Since:
      1/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      central gain << NIHL
      Kelpie you are the man.
       
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    5. Benoves

      Benoves Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      26-9-2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknow possibly noise trauma
      Did your first sound (which you always had) improve too? That would be very encouraging that such a chronic tinnitus can improve with the right treatment.
       
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    6. Mathew Gould

      Mathew Gould Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/Jaw misalignment
      Yeah anyone know the answer? Is a reduction of 6 dB's half of the sound?? Meaning if tinnitus is currently at about 70 dB's would 64 dB's be half the sound of tinnitus?
       
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    7. GregCA
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      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      If you want to understand sound better, here is a page that is quite informational: http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-soundpower.htm
       
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    8. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

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      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-levelchange.htm
       
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    9. duder12

      duder12 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      High Frequency Hearing Loss
      I am in the trial and haven't seen a reduction yet. Maybe just one evening after a session but overall it has not made much difference.

      I do think I'm a couple sessions behind most others though.
       
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      kelpiemsp
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      Tinnitus Since:
      birth/ recent spike 2/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Born with ETD, several acoustic traumas, most recently ETD
      Ask what timing you are on? For me it was the -15 but there were definitely duds. They are changing up the timing orders so maybe ask them!
       
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    11. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

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      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      Thanks for your input. The more the merrier.
       
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    12. duder12

      duder12 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      High Frequency Hearing Loss
      I will. Thanks
       
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    13. Bill Bauer
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      February, 2017
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    14. Mathew Gould

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      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/Jaw misalignment
      I don't like how they said, "This treatment is some years away".
       
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    15. PlsHelpMe
      Dead

      PlsHelpMe Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      June 28th, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      A friend shot a cap gun into my ear. (Once)
      Yes... But we are near to find the cure. All I need is a little light in the dark.
       
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    16. Spiral
      Balanced

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      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      lol, ditto. Based on all of the tidbits of info that we've gotten over the past year or so it indicates that this treatment or another like it will be on the market one or at most two years from now.
       
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    17. Akk

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      2006
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      Unkonown
      3 dB change equals double (or half) in sound pressure level. In practice, 3 dB change is consired rather small, just noticable. When volume changes 10 dB (10 times in SPL), it is consired as ”double” than previous volume level. After all 10 dB reducing is remarkable.
       
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    18. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

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      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      Why? We are some years away.

      Two
       
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    19. Mathew Gould

      Mathew Gould Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/Jaw misalignment
      Agreed, I think the article was from like 7 months ago anyways.
       
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    20. Deamon22

      Deamon22 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Italy
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Head Trauma
      Damn, how awesome would it be if this could bring severe tinnitus down to mild and maybe completely silence mild tinnitus. Let‘s hope this works out.
       
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    21. TheDanishGirl
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      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2017 (H since 06/2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Oh I see. I have read and been told several times that 6 dB is double the volume, but I see those people that told me that are wrong.

      Yes, a 10 dB reduction in tinnitus is quite remarkable.
       
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      kelpiemsp
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      birth/ recent spike 2/2018
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      Born with ETD, several acoustic traumas, most recently ETD
      It is possible there is some marginal gains going on. I.E. it's possible that the louder the T the more the hyper activity and thus the more of an effect. I have no idea. Let me be clear that my T has in no ways been eliminated. But it has certainly been reduced :)
       
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    23. Deamon22

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    24. Benoves

      Benoves Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      26-9-2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknow possibly noise trauma
      @kelpiemsp do you have a treatment today or next week?
       
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    25. TheDanishGirl
      Sad

      TheDanishGirl Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2017 (H since 06/2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Damn! Not what I (we) wanted to hear :(

      But I thank you for your honesty, and coming here telling it to us.
       
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    26. Mathew Gould

      Mathew Gould Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/Jaw misalignment
      Anyone know what the 3rd trial that starts in early 2019 is about?
       
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    27. Mathew Gould

      Mathew Gould Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/Jaw misalignment
      I have white noise as tinnitus, is that closer to 13 kHz or 1 kHz? And I also have the re-active tinnitus where the tinnitus goes up with sound, although the re-active part is lessening I think.
       
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    28. Manny
      In pain

      Manny Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      central gain << NIHL
      Yup... I'm feeling like this a lot these days - 24/7 in fact... ;) ;((
       
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    29. parsky

      parsky Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      8/1/17
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      White noise would be noise across all frequencies.
       
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    30. TheDanishGirl
      Sad

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      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2017 (H since 06/2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      What do you mean?
       
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