Worsened Hyperacusis, Sound Distortions, Reactive Tinnitus, Ear Pain: Should I Do All Online School?

Discussion in 'Support' started by weab00, Sep 12, 2020.

    1. weab00
      Gloomy

      weab00 Member Benefactor

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      nunya
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      05/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      some good mf music
      I’m going into my junior year of high school and recently my hyperacusis has gotten much much worse and now it’s constant sound distortions, reactive tinnitus, occasional warmth and stabs of pain in and around the ear, etc.

      Would I be better off doing the hybrid model of 2 days in school 3 days out, or doing all online, given my extremely sensitive hearing?

      I’m “lucky” in the sense that online is an option for everyone at the same time as this dramatic worsening. Let me know what you guys think.
       
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    2. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      HI @weab00

      I am sorry to know that you are going through a difficult time at the moment with hyperacusis. This condition usually gets worse when a person is exposed to sounds which doesn't necessarily have to be loud. If you have been using any type of headphones including a headset even at low volume this can make the tinnitus and hyperacusis worse for some people. I see on your Avatar that you are playing a guitar and therefore assume you play in a band? Even if you are not doing so at the moment and play this instrument through an amplifier for practice, it is loud enough to spike the tinnitus. In any case I believe the increase in the tinnitus and hyperacusis is caused by sound.

      There is no such thing as Reactive tinnitus. This terminology was made-up in tinnitus forums many years ago and become common place in them. People that want to believe they have such a condition then it's their choice. However, this kind of thinking can do more harm than good, because it can make the person believe they have an additional problem when they don't and think their oversensitivity to sound is worse by having it.

      People that have oversensitivity to sound or hyperacusis, are usually those that have Noise induced tinnitus. The tinnitus is Reacting due to an oversensitive auditory system brought on by Noise trauma. It can improve (cure) by itself with time but in some cases, treatment is required by seeing an Audiologist that specialises in tinnitus and hyperacusis management.

      You need to reduce your exposure to loud sound and if you are using headphones even at low volume, I advise you to stop as you risk your symptoms getting worse.

      Michael
       
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      weab00
      Gloomy

      weab00 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      nunya
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      some good mf music
      Haha that is Jaco Pastorius. I’m a music enthusiast but have never played in any bands. Yes I practice bass guitar at a very very low level from an amp, certainly not enough to spike anything, and I no longer use headphones.

      I’ve been staying away from loud and artificial noises as much as possible, but it’s impossible to complete isolate myself from the unpredictability of everyday life and noise. My peers are going to parties, movies, loud venues and I’m holed up in my room protecting myself from setbacks... this is no way to spend your youth.

      What are you supposed to call it when your tinnitus increases in volume around external sounds?

      What are your thoughts on my question, regardless? This is the main pressing issue.
       
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    4. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I know nothing about hybrid model you speak of. I only advise on tinnitus and hyperacusis. One thing is for sure, if you don't stop your exposure to whatever sound is causing your hyperacusis to increase, you risk not being able to do much at all because this condition can become very distressing when severe.

      Best of luck and I wish you well.
      Michael
       
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      weab00
      Gloomy

      weab00 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      nunya
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      some good mf music
      It’s simple, we can choose between a full virtual course where we do online work and have video calls with teachers 5 days a week, or choose to go in 2 days a week and do 3 days online from home. I was wondering peoples opinions on the best course of action based on both their experience with how loud schools can be and hyperacusis. But at the same time, maybe I’d be fine with 2 days a week?

      I’m really trying my best to limit myself from all unsafe sounds but am also trying not to isolate too badly.

      Anyway, this is my predicament.
       
    6. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Thank you for the information. Sorry I am unable to advise you on this but whatever you decide to do, my advice is not to use any type of headphones or headset even at low volumes.

      Take care
      Michael
       
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    7. Orions Pain
      Sad

      Orions Pain Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      It’s a very personal decision I think as only you know how much you can tolerate and how bad your condition feels!

      In my opinion, if you have the opportunity to let your ears rest then you should take it. Even if school won’t hurt your ears (which we can’t predict, you never know when they’ll have a surprise lockdown drill or someone honks their horn at you in the parking lot) it might be more relaxing to just be at home in a controlled environment for a bit!

      It’s important to keep stress low & protect your mental health in addition to your ears during this time. I know for me I don’t think I would have been able to handle going to school with this but again it’s all personal! Good luck with whatever decision you make :)
       
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    8. Juan

      Juan Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Several causes
      I would choose a full online course. You can attend classes from home, in a controlled environment, with your own computer. You just need to get good quality speakers. It's the perfect solution for someone with hyperacusis as most very loud sounds happen when going to a place (driving, or using public transport) or being outside home (car horns, unexpected construction noise, sirens, alarms etc)
       
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      weab00
      Gloomy

      weab00 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      nunya
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      some good mf music
      Okay. But what is the mechanism behind reactive tinnitus then? I’ve seen you say that many times but never explaining why. If reactive tinnitus does not exist then why does it react in pitch/volume to most external noises?
       
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    10. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I attend this forum to offer advice to people asking for help with Noise induced tinnitus and hyperacusis. This advice is based on my experience with these conditions, corresponding and counselling people at forums, on the telephone and by email. I am not here to try and convince anyone in what I believe in. In my previous post I have said, there is no such thing as Reactive Tinnitus and I stand by it. This terminology was made-up in tinnitus forums many years ago and is now regularly used in them. Believing in this so called condition often causes more harm than good. People that say they have Reactive Tinnitus, are usually those affected by noise trauma and have developed an oversensitivity to sound known as hyperacusis. The tinnitus is indeed reacting but this is due to noise trauma and if it doesn't improve by itself over time, needs to be treated as there's a risk of the hyperacusis becoming a long term problem. A person can habituate to tinnitus but if the hyperacusis is still present a person will often experience tinnitus spikes.

      Michael
       
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    11. Pierce Wolf

      Pierce Wolf Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Nail gun charge going off outside the gun near my right ear
      Then it's simply just another symptom. Like for real, comments like yours do more harm than good. When you hear noise and the tinnitus competes with it, that’s reactive tinnitus... It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that.

      I get what you are trying to say but man you come off like such an ass. Clearly since people keep having to come back and ask you questions over and over, they are still confused, and that tells me you aren’t helping anyone or truly backing your claims.
       
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    12. Pierce Wolf

      Pierce Wolf Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Nail gun charge going off outside the gun near my right ear
      I’d take the full online one. But I’d also not try to stay indoors all the time especially in your bedroom. Spending way too much time inside ain’t good for your sanity, I know how tempting it is with hyperacusis though. When you go out, use hearing protection.
       
    13. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Since you have been curt with me I shall be curt with you. You have had tinnitus for 5 minutes, I've had it for considerably longer.

      Goodbye.
       
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    14. Aaron91
      Gloomy

      Aaron91 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music/headphones/concerts - Hyperacusis from motorbike
      Ah, you must be new here! Welcome to the club!

      In the interests of general health and self-preservation, you will learn, much like the rest of us, to ignore this troll.
       
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    15. Pierce Wolf

      Pierce Wolf Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Nail gun charge going off outside the gun near my right ear
      Ooo someone got a little butthurt... maybe more than even the pain in his ears...
       
    16. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I attend this forum to help people with tinnitus, not to correspond with troublemakers which you are clearly one. If you persist in annoying me then you will be placed on ignore, as I have done with other troublemakers in this forum.

      Now please leave me alone.
      Michael
       
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    17. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      I'd take the hybrid. You will go stir crazy given enough time and complete isolation from sound isn't good either. Bring double protection and quick earplugs if you feel it's risky... but ultimately remote work will always have a disconnect with real people you need that too.
       
    18. Simon85

      Simon85 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably noise exposure, but unknown.
      This is a tough one and a personal decision. Would be interested to know where you landed? Protecting your ears is important, but so is socialising with your classmates.

      The noise levels at school can be rather unpredictable.
       
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      weab00
      Gloomy

      weab00 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      nunya
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      some good mf music
      I'm doing all online right now, but I'm pretty concerned for next year when things are back to normal. My ears are still pretty bad, so I could be completely fucked considering it's only 7 months away.
       
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