Audion Therapeutics Trial

[IAmCalifornia]

Do you believe that hearing aid companies are able to block/affect the results of those trials 'under the table' in order not to loose their profits? A possible success would be devastating for them.

I believe this, it's like big pharma, cure the patient?> Pff they want CUSTOMERS

It's abhorrent and awful. Why experience the joys of hearing when you can wear a freaking expensive hearing that breaks down so you can keep buying over and over again

The powers that be are EVIL and DO NOT have your best interests in mind

 

[swc5150]

Do you believe that hearing aid companies are able to block/affect the results of those trials 'under the table' in order not to loose their profits? A possible success would be devastating for them.

Not a chance. The large pharma companies investing in hearing restoration are not interested in protecting the Starkeys of the world. They see huge profit potential, and will go after it. Eyeglasse and contact manufacturers couldn't shut down lasik, just like a buggy whip makers couldn't stop Henry Ford.

 

[Paulmanlike]

Drug companies and hearing aid companies are completely two different entities. If a company invents a cure for hearing loss then of course they will sell it.

Look how laser eye surgery has taken off. You can get your eyes fixed that was very expensive at the start and the price finally fell to 'collect' the customers. Opticians still sell glasses and I believe this will be the same for hearing aid companies. (Providing they are successful in treating hearing loss)
This treatment will be very expensive when it comes out and hearing aid companies will still remain players in the market for years to come.

 

[Rubenslash]

Do you believe that hearing aid companies are able to block/affect the results of those trials 'under the table' in order not to loose their profits? A possible success would be devastating for them.

Like Nokia blocked the smartphone right?

Has been discussed plenty of times here, of course they can not stop it..

 

[vermillion]

Like Nokia blocked the smartphone right?

Lol.

Health and energy are way different than just a smartphone, but I hope you're right.

 

[swc5150]

Here's one more appropriate then...how about little Torax Medical offering the Linx, which stops Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease? Eliminates the need to take heat burn meds in perpetuity. This is just one of many examples that blows a hole in the conspiracy theory thing, so fear not

Anyway, back to Audion...

 

[vermillion]

Here's one more appropriate then...how about little Torax Medical offering the Linx, which stops Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease? Eliminates the need to take heat burn meds in perpetuity. This is just one of many examples that blows a hole in the conspiracy theory thing, so fear not

Anyway, back to Audion...

 

[vaka]

Do you believe that hearing aid companies are able to block/affect the results of those trials 'under the table' in order not to loose their profits? A possible success would be devastating for them.

As I think those treatments will not fix your hearing completely, ENTs will use a combined approach with regeneration and hearing aids. I think they are not "enemies".

 

[sharonr]

Hi, has Audion started their trials yet?
Thank you.

 

[Rubenslash]

Hi, has Audion started their trials yet?
Thank you.

No they will start recruiting around this time

 

[sharonr]

No they will start recruiting around this time

Thank you for your quick reply.

 

[jeff W]

Drug companies and hearing aid companies are completely two different entities. If a company invents a cure for hearing loss then of course they will sell it.

Look how laser eye surgery has taken off. You can get your eyes fixed that was very expensive at the start and the price finally fell to 'collect' the customers. Opticians still sell glasses and I believe this will be the same for hearing aid companies. (Providing they are successful in treating hearing loss)
This treatment will be very expensive when it comes out and hearing aid companies will still remain players in the market for years to come.

It's always the ones you don't see coming. The fiercest resistance i have encountered personally, is the deaf community. I am specifically talking about those born deaf. They are extremely threatened by the movement. Go see for yourself. Comment on a sign language article or whatever, you will see what I mean.

 

[Paulmanlike]

It's always the ones you don't see coming. The fiercest resistance i have encountered personally, is the deaf community. I am specifically talking about those born deaf. They are extremely threatened by the movement. Go see for yourself. Comment on a sign language article or whatever, you will see what I mean.

People born deaf are threatened by advances in hair cell regeneration? Really? I have started a thread where this topic that may be more suitable

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/is-the-hearing-loss-tinnitus-market-overvalued.24040/

 

[acufenero]

Not exactly about the trial, but related:

Audion and REGAIN Horizon 2020 partners will present at the 41st ARO meeting February 9-14 2018

Abstract Title: A small molecule regenerative therapy for adult onset sensorineural hearing loss; the REGAIN Horizon 2020 consortium approach.

 

[tomytl]

Hi,
maybe double post but here you can apply for a trial
http://www.regainyourhearing.eu/trial/

 

[Berik]

What I find to be somewhat perticular, is that Dr. Albert Edge is mentioned as founder of both Audion and Decibel TX. With investments from, e.g. Google in TX, I think this is strange. Curious whether EU funded Audion research is helping Decibel, or GV funded Decibel research is helping Audion.. Edge is mentioned as a consultant for Audion. Is he still involved there, given his position with Decibel? There competitors.. doesn't make sense.

 

[VRZ78]

Just hoping everything is not just a scam...

 

[GregCA]

Just hoping everything is not just a scam...

I don't think it meets the definition of scam. It may not work at the end of the day, but that doesn't imply dishonesty.

 

[acufenero]

It's not a scam, lol. The drug may or may not work, but it's based on actual research.

 

[frankhovin]

There's not much scam in the medical industry. It costs too much to develop medicines for anyone to develop anything they KNOW won't work at all. But there are good and bad drugs, of course. And there is lots of crap in the business. But there is NO SUCH THING as "big pharma", just as there's no "new world order" conspiracy.

 

[parsky]

Has anyone received an update on this trial starting?

 

[Benoves]

Want to write audion an e-mail. Are there any suggested questions?

 

[tomm]

Regain trial has opened in UK. Attached is the clinical trial patient sheet.

 

[Benoves]

Regain trial has opened in UK. Attached is the clinical trial patient sheet.

Does this mean they already started the treatment?

 

[parsky]

Regain trial has opened in UK. Attached is the clinical trial patient sheet.

Great news. Their website still says not recruiting. Hmmm...

 

[vermillion]

So about REGAIN. After developing ear pain I had to visit today my doctor at the ENT clinic of the Kappodistrian University of Athens. We had a quite long appointment and conversation. I asked about REGAIN. My doctor (who was surprised that I was aware about this, thnx TT) happens to be a research associate there and will be recruiting patients at the trial after getting the green light from U.K. 's phase. I expressed my interest and I may get recruited if I decide to do so. Tough decision. We will discuss further and balance the risks and benefits. What I get is that the trial's procedures are running normally.

 

[Makrohn]

Best of luck to you @vermillion Please keep us updated on any news or info you are able to share

 

[acufenero]

So about REGAIN. After developing ear pain I had to visit today my doctor at the ENT clinic of the Kappodistrian University of Athens. We had a quite long appointment and conversation. I asked about REGAIN. My doctor (who was surprised that I was aware about this, thnx TT) happens to be research associate there and will be recruiting patients at the second phase of the trial after getting the green light from U.K. 's phase 1. I expressed my interest and I may get recruited if I decide to do so. Tough decision. We will discuss further and balance the risks and benefits. What I get is that the trial's procedures are running normally.

Good luck!

 

[vermillion]

Best of luck to you @vermillion Please keep us updated on any news or info you are able to share

Good luck!

Thank you, but I am not sure if I am willing to take this risk. I have also read here in the forum that this method reduces your supporting cells? Anyway, the good thing is that I found a point of reference and any information that can be disclosed to the general public like me, I will share it here.

 

[parsky]

Thank you, but I am not sure if I am willing to take this risk. I have also read here in the forum that this method reduces your supporting cells? Anyway, the good thing is that I found a point of reference and any information that can be disclosed to the general public like me, I will share it here.

What is the severity of your hearing loss and frequency of your T?