Hearing Protection and Tinnitus: Keep The Tiny Hair Cells Safe — Discuss!

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by Markku, Mar 5, 2011.

    1. Louise

      Louise Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Yorkshire, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      29/06/2012 worsened Jan 2017 & Dec 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
      Hi Koenraad,

      How did you 'lean not to hear the tinnitus'? How?
       
    2. Emma

      Emma Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Are spongy foam ear plugs and headphones/headsets the only two options? Is anyone using hi-tech or unique forms of hearing protection?
       
    3. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      If I use basic foam plugs, these are my choice, very comfortable, fit well and very soft:

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      I also now have Elacin's ER25, which are great for music (gigs, concerts, whatever) thanks to flat attenuation and custom fit (they are moulded to fit your ears).

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      Elacin's are quite expensive, just like other custom plugs, but they last a good while and are really worth it if you like to hear the music as is, just not as loud. IMO.
       
    4. adam2525
      Balanced

      adam2525 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2001
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I use ACS pro musicians ear plugs. They block off the harmful sound and also allow you to hear what you are doing.
      They are made to measure. Not cheap but should last for decades.

      The ones I use are below.

      ACS PRO 15
       
    5. Ivan
      Amused

      Ivan Member

      Location:
      Croatia
      Tinnitus Since:
      February 18th, 2013
      Hello, my friends.
      Would foam earplugs be enough if you were going to the rock concert? I've heard that each earplug has it's decibel resistance, meaning that if the source of a sound has much more decibels, one's earplug will let the sound in and therefor mess up your tinnitus even more. My friend and I are planning to play together. Usually when we play together, the volume could be compared to the real rock concert. As I mentioned in another thread, I have a phobia of worsening my tinnitus.

      Ivan.
       
    6. Lord of the Ring
      Cheeky

      Lord of the Ring Member

      Location:
      Belgium
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2013
      Foam earplugs aren't your best bet, as they often leak. And don't forget about the vibrations that reach your inner ear through the petrous part of the temporal bone
       
    7. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      @Ivan
      I merged your post with existing ones and created a new thread about hearing protection. Hope this helps.
       
    8. Deep
      Balanced

      Deep Member

      I swear by my ACS molded ear plugs, I have a -15db filter, but they turn down the overall sound much more compared to -20db non-molded ones, because the ACS are fitted to your exact ear shape they do not allow certain frequencies to punch though as much, plus the filters are AMAZING, literally just sounds like someone has turned down a volume switch instead of placing a bucket over a speaker.
       
    9. oliver
      Stressed

      oliver Member

      Location:
      london
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2011
      Hello deep, I also have these exact same ear plugs and I couldn't agree more with you. They allow me to go to gig's (unfortunately night clubs are still generally a "no" for me), play on the decks at home and go to my teams football stadium without the worry of spikes. The filters really are amazing as well, it feels like a comfortable headphone that narrows the frequency of sound and they feel like you can hear better with them in! I recommend them to everyone, even those who don't have T.

      P.S. I don't work for ACS! I just highly recommend them! ;)
       
    10. Job
      Worried

      Job Member

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2009
      I recently got some, but the fit isn't perfect; there is occlusion when I talk. I'm taking them back to get them remade.
       
    11. erik
      Cool

      erik Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Washington State, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/15/2012 or earlier?
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
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    12. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      Love the page. Gives me further ideas for Tinnitus Network, especially on how graphics really can make the information more graspable.

      Of course the content was good too. Always great to be reminded about sound levels; absolutely required information for the newcomers here.

      Thank you for sharing.
       
    13. erik
      Cool

      erik Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Washington State, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/15/2012 or earlier?
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
      Yes we can do something similar. It is always easier to see something graphical then just text.
       
    14. Cher69
      Fine

      Cher69 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      York, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      20/5/2013
      Need some guidance ..... about ear plugs to protect my hearing.

      I've now got to the stage where I have accepted and learning to cope with my T - and want to do all I can to protect my hearing and hopefully try to prevent T worsening over time or subjecting my ears to anything too loud !

      With this in mind - I do want a life and we have tickets for a concert at the races in a few weeks - where do I start looking at ear plugs to protect myself if the music is very loud. I've already told the family Im not standing anywhere near the speakers - but Im a little cautious about going but still want to have some fun with the family.

      Looking for advice on what to buy and what not to buy from those who have already experienced good and bad ear protection ideas etc

      Many thanks - Cher x
       
    15. erik
      Cool

      erik Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Washington State, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/15/2012 or earlier?
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
      Hi Cher,

      Looks like you are on the right path....:), and you want to definitely protect your ears at concerts. I use ER20 musicians ear plugs. They are inexpensive and work well and are not too noticeable, at least not as bad as orange foam earplugs. They are comfortable and block out most of the harmful sounds you don't want to hear while allowing you to still hear things fairly clearly unlike standard foam ear plugs. You can read more about them here. The key is to get the right size for your ear. My ears canals are small so the small size work well for me.

      The only other route I thought about going and still might, was to get custom molded to my ear, ear plugs. They run about $100-150 here in the US.

      I keep ear plugs handy as much as I can. I have a pair in each of my cars and an extra just in case. Basically, the rule of thumb is that if you have to raise your voice to be heard or to hear someone else speak then it is probably too loud for your ears. I wear them at loud events, concerts and sometimes cinema depending on the film.

      I am sure others will chime in with some good recommendations also.
       
    16. Petloy
      Happy

      Petloy Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2012
      I have the molded ear plugs at 25 and 15 db, and I also have the Alpine Music Safe Pro with 3 attenuations, for low, medium and high protections. You are on the right path as Erik said, when I first got my T it was mild, after a month I went to a church service with very amplified music and I was near the speakers as well...well my T changed after that, but don't get me wrong I still got used to it (the louder T) after a while, but how I wished I could've gotten advice when I was a newbie...after that incident I made sure I ask the veterans for advice before doing something.:)
       
    17. Deep
      Balanced

      Deep Member

    18. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      @Cher69,
      I merged your thread with this existing one about hearing protection.

      I sincerely suggest custom moulded ear plugs such as the ones Deep posted.

      All the best,
      Markku
       
    19. Cher69
      Fine

      Cher69 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      York, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      20/5/2013
      Well I've gone for some @erik suggested for ease of ordering and see how I get on and I need something for Friday night at York evening race meet with k-chiefs playing afterwards so needed quick fix and amazon are deffo quick and reliable ! Will see how I get on before going for those expensive suggestions although prob worth every penny gonna see how these work in an outside concert as a starting point. Ty for suggestions and bring on the weekend fun starts at York races and then a week away no work !!! X
       
    20. Per

      Per Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2013
      Before I get the chance to visit an audiologist I want to know if anyone here have any preferences in regards to earplug protection? Since I don't think the audiologist have T I guess it's better for me to get that advice here, for what I know the people I see in the treatment business could be commercially bios and recommend a lesser product. Are there any particulate manufacturers or concepts I should consider? I need some ear gear to keep in my pocket in case of emergency, right now all I have is coned shaped "air flight / sleep plugs. If I squeeze the tip and push them inside my ear I manage to remove loud noise but they tend to slip out easily.
       
    21. Sean

      Sean Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01-01-2011
      Hi every one,

      I am just wondering how do you guys protect your ears ? i use Macks ear plus..they are made up of silicon/plastic type of material that molds really well in to your ear. I have custom made ear plugs( $100.00) but it seems macks ear plus works better than my custom ear plus.

      have you guys heard of etymotic EB-15 ear plugs? they cost $ 500.oo. any opinion as to which ear plugs are the best in the market ?
      please advise.
       
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    22. Kodiak Island

      Kodiak Island Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      I need some advice. My son and I have gone to a NHRA drag race in Las Vegas for several years. I have had tinnitus and the extreme loudness of the racing has not bothered it ( I did wear ear muffs). My tinnitus is louder as of a few months ago. My questions is, if I wear very good ear plugs and very good ear muffs over them, should I be safe to go to the race with my son? The races are about 140 db! We will be seated about 150 feet away.
       
    23. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      Drag racing: The loudest sport

      If you use this tool: http://www.howardleight.com/selector
      You can find muffs with SNR (explained) of 32-34... meaning that if the drag race is 140 dB, then the perceived noise level would be 106 - 108 dB...

      Ear plugs (some offer over 30 dB noise reduction) combined with the muffs would bring the total noise level down to about 78 dB....

      The actual combined noise reduction effect, however, will be lower. It's not as straightforward as simply adding them up.

      I found some information for you which you might find interesting.

      Extra Protection: Wearing Earmuffs and Earplugs in Combination
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      Double Hearing Protection - Noisehelp.com
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    24. Callum White

      Callum White Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      June 2010
      Hi guys, was just wondering what type of hearing protection everyone uses, if any at all. I'm asking this for general curiosity but also because I am tempted to invest in a pair of custom made musician ear plugs which cost around the £150 mark. Does anyone use these types of ear plugs or do they just use cheaper ear plugs which cost £15 or below?

      Also do you use them for clubbing, going to gigs, festivals, loud pubs and bars etc?

      Here's an example of custom fitted musician ear plugs http://www.puretonemusic.net/er_earplugs.html
       
    25. JTP
      No Mood

      JTP Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Shit happens
      Hi, Custom fitted plugs offer much better fidelity and comfort. IMO cheaper ones will protect your ears just as well and you won't be as pissed off when you eventually lose them;) I think these are the pros and cons. If you can select the filters, I would not take anything less than 25dB.
       
    26. Leo1994
      Suicidal

      Leo1994 Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      What kind of ear protections does famous musican use on stage? I bought custom made ear plugs, costed me 300 euro, yet, they arent protecting well enough, I used them 24/7 in a club, when i got outside the club i noticed that my tinnitus had got louder. I am so sad, i just started univeristy and i feel like im missing alot in life. I am ony 19 years old and I have had tinnitus for about 7 years.... Everyone is going to parties etc and im staying home because im afraid my tinnitus will get even louder. Even when i use my custom made ear plugs my ears get more damaged from clubs... I dont know what to do :( I am missing so much in life, where ever the fun is, there is loud music...
       
    27. yonkapin

      yonkapin Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Melbourne, Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      March 2012
      If you're going clubbing and what not definitely get custom moulded plugs from a decent audiologist. If you can find an authorised fitter, the best brand to get would be etymotic. If not then something like a pair of resound custom fits are good too. They're both available with interchangeable filters so you can adjust them to your needs depending where you are, always go -25 when clubbing though.
       
    28. SarahR

      SarahR Member

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2013
    29. LadyDi
      Busy

      LadyDi Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Florida, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Barotrauma/airplane
      Not that I have that much experience: But I agree with Yonkapin. Etyomic is the way to go. I invested in custom molded musicians plugs;. They make them out of clear plastic, so they aren't so noticeable, and come with three sets of filters: 9 db, 15 db and 25 db. The filters let some sound in so you can still have a conversation in a restaurant or play music and hear others around you -- which is a really, really nice feature. Expensive: Mine were $240 USD, which came with two sets of filters, and I had to pay $80 for the third set. They need to be fitted by an audiologist or authorized professional.

      You also can get 25 db solid plugs for the filter holes, which shut out more sound and would be better for super loud environments. But I still would be very careful about going to clubs, even with the best earwear possible. Stay away from the speakers and go outside for frequent breaks.
       
    30. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      I have the Elacin's ER25. They are great and deserving of all the praise.

      I really can't find any fault with them, and they will last you years in active use.
       
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