How Come Most People Can Be Exposed to Loud Noise and NOT Get Tinnitus?

Discussion in 'Support' started by cjbhab, Feb 27, 2020.

    1. cjbhab
      Curious

      cjbhab Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Concerts, Sinuses, Ear infection
      I’m sitting outside the club eating pizza right now because it’s too loud... and I’m drunk but still want to post this thought..

      Isn’t it interesting how the majority of people can go stand beside a speaker every Friday and Saturday night at ridiculous volumes and will never get tinnitus ever.... I wish that were me.

      To me that tells me that we have no idea what the cure is, or what the cause is. Research is literally at the same spot it was in the year 1800. Let’s be honest, Lenire doesn’t work. If it did, we’d all be rejoicing and I’d be able to walk into the local clinic and lay $10,000USD on the table and they’d blow me and then fix my ears. Everyone has some degree of hearing loss... I mean it comes with age.

      Sucks we pulled the short straw. Have a great night folks.
       
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    2. Don Tinny

      Don Tinny Member

      Location:
      Argentina
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017 (worsening)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert with ear plugs
      I wonder the same. As I always say, my friends are 35 years old and they go to nightclubs, pubs or shows every weekend, but they never get tinnitus. Weak ears or some brain problem? Maybe we will never know.
       
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    3. Michael B
      No Mood

      Michael B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      '11
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      Never say never. It might just creep up on them some day.
       
    4. bobvann
      Cheeky

      bobvann Member

      Location:
      Inside the vortex
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud shit
      Don't forget not everyone has the negative reaction we get. Aren't we special :eek::oldman::pompous:
       
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    5. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      1/1995
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      I agree...
       
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    6. alanisnotadj
      Batty

      alanisnotadj Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      1992 (got much worse in 2018)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise exposure
      I would not be so sure.
       
    7. aot
      Depressed

      aot Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      2016. Worsened 11/2019.
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound induced, worsened due to noise expouse + flu.
      Genietic predisposition, I think. Many members have parents and/or siblings with Tinnitus. My mother has it due to Menire's Diease. Just bad luck, I guess.
       
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    8. MRItechssuck
      Disappointed

      MRItechssuck Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      Severe 10/17/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise, MRI
      Life isn’t fair... it sucks. I hope your were wearing earplugs, but I’m glad you are living life!

      I doubt even FX-322 will work for everyone... I agree with your drunken sentiments on research... Lenire... etc.

      Life is a b!tch and then you die... wow I never realized how prophetic that was when I was younger.
       
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    9. Tybs

      Tybs Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Fall from stairs
      I'm not so sure it's mainly genetics. Certain research articles of the past few years seem to indicate that there is a sum of input variables which leads to T once a certain treshold is met in the DCN. Input from hearing, nerves from different areas of the body and specific jaw-related points are apparently all part of this sum. If only one variable is higher than normal, one does not get T yet, but once many issues occur at the same time (e.g. hearing loss + jaw issues + neck muscle tension due to stress), the "normal" DCN input is exceeded and T initiates.

      Nothing is proven yet, but this would explain a lot of things: how stress can trigger T (indirectly), how T can naturally disappear (sufficient inputs decreasing), how every case is different with type of sounds, treatment effectiveness, volume, etc.
       
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    10. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
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    11. FGG
      No Mood

      FGG Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Multi-factorial
      Apparently how much the opposing muscle groups caps the nerve endings after the amputation might be one factor:

      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-approach-to-amputation-could-reduce-phantom-pain/

      If the brain can still sense the stretch of muscle fibers, it doesn't perceive the pain apparently.

      Certain etiologies are also more likely to cause phantom pain after amputation (e.g. blood clots) so it seems like maybe the kind of local neuroinflammation (i.e., in the limb, not the brain) that happens before the amputation is likely a factor. I would love to know specifically what genes/conditions lead to more neuroinflammation in one person vs another.
       
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    12. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      April /1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      You might be surprised to learn a lot of people that do as you suggest, already have tinnitus but it remains at a low level their brain can comfortably ignore for now. This is facilitated during the day by environmental sounds that masked it. They have probably experienced loud ringing in the ears after a night out clubbing and in a day or two, it reduces to low level where it is no longer heard or completely disappears. Be under no illusion, if these people continue to subject their ears to loud music at clubs or use headphones at high volume levels, it is just a matter of time before they develop full blown tinnitus that their brain cannot ignore. Depending on the severity of the tinnitus, they may or may not have to seek professional help with a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist specialising in noise induced tinnitus.

      Michael
       
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    13. LukeYoung
      Stressed

      LukeYoung Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      A loud Concert - Noise Exposure
      That is the mystery.. someone should do a poll on hearing issues in the family.

      for me, my mother has menieres.
      Brother had ear issues since he was a kid, always had glue ear.

      so I was probably doomed from the start.
       
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    14. Michael B
      No Mood

      Michael B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      '11
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      I never thought I'd get tinnitus but then I did at an older age. Yeah, some people are spared but others may not be as fortunate... they just don't know it yet.
       
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    15. TheDanishGirl
      Sad

      TheDanishGirl Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2017 (H since 06/2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Still, most people don't get tinnitus. I know a ton of people who are 50+ and have been to countless loud events in their lifetime and still go all the time (without ear plugs), who don't have an ounce of tinnitus.
       
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    16. ASilverLight
      In pain

      ASilverLight Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably noise, stress and a neck injury.
      As far as I recall I haven't ever suffered tinnitus ONCE before mine started this year. Maybe a slight hiss once or twice, but nothing I can genuinely recall - if it lasted more than a few hours I'm 100% sure I would as it's not something you just completely forget.

      Ear issues were completely foreign to me until now, my brother got a lot of ear infections as a child but once he reached double digits, all were gone and he hasn't had any issues since. Plenty of loud noise exposure for him too, MUCH more than me. My mother, too, although she had intermittent ringing from an earwax blockage until a few months ago. All things considered I'm the one with the least loud noise exposure in my family, the one who's never had a single ear infection before, and the one who's taken the most care to protect them, yet I'm the one with tinnitus.

      Then again, mine is heavily somatic and a few interesting events preceded my onset, literally none related to loud noise exposure as the last one was in mid September 2019 and it came without any tinnitus. (Interesting meaning a fall and possible mild whiplash, an earwax buildup, lots of nasal congestion and intense anxiety and mental and physical fatigue, which may or may not be related to said whiplash.)

      But I do agree. It's interesting how some do and some don't, but I guess we can apply that to a variety of health issues.
       
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