I’m at a Rave

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by Djstarkiss, Feb 17, 2019.

    1. OnceUponaTime
      Caffeine

      OnceUponaTime Member Benefactor

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      11/11
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      Allergies or Acoustic Trauma, Stress
      Oh boy. Not a good idea. :eek:
       
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    2. Jcb
      No Mood

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      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      possible TMJ, came on after severe cold and chest infection,
      Wow..... I’m actually a loss for words??

      I truly hope this doesn’t affect your T my friend, loud noises are no friend to the beast known as Tinnitus... nope
       
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    3. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      Guys. Everyone needs to chill.

      Ya know how many touring musicians have some level of tinnitus?

      MOST OF THEM.

      I go to concerts all the freaking time and never get spikes from them. Dont stand by speakers. take breaks, wear earplugs properly and you can enjoy life.

      If every exposure made it that much worse none of the pros would be able to communicate at all.
       
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    4. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

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      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
       
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    5. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      That's like using "most prostitutes have AIDS" as an argument that it's ok to not use condoms.
       
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    6. Drone Draper
      Jaded

      Drone Draper Member

      Location:
      U.K.
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      NIHL, ETD and work stress
      I actually heard this same argument from a guy on a T group on facebook who sings in bands.

      I'd say it'd be bad enough to have T as a famous musician, but if you're not even famous, what is the point? Risking a lifetime of worse T so a bunch of strangers can enjoy music from... somebody?
       
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    7. Drone Draper
      Jaded

      Drone Draper Member

      Location:
      U.K.
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      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      NIHL, ETD and work stress
      "Great gig man, really enjoyed your set opening for Uncle Joe's Dirtnap!"

      "..... WHAT?"
       
    8. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustical trauma
      he's not coming back, the thought of hearing loss regeneration never crossed his mind nor the likelyhood that noxacusis will come back and tinnitus will get worse.

      oh well.
       
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    9. Gman

      Gman Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ototoxic earwax drops, neck, chiari, noise, life.
      @Djstarkiss Many of the top DJs have a catastrophic level of tinnitus and hearing loss. It can get much much worse. For example, I've read that Sven Vath is deaf in one ear and almost in the other and probably has tinnitus blasting away. It's like they all have a death wish, still not using in ear monitors even though they've been around for a long time and their ears are already destroyed. What a bunch of idiots.
       
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    10. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
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      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustical trauma
      This is because people these fellas are on strong drugs which alter the mind to not give a fuck, usually the hendonistic wreckless abusive habits and lifestyle ends after sufficient injury but some of the most hardcore druggies are just injecting themselves with basically dopamine syringes to keep going.

      Music probably sounds like broken garbage but their too high to realize it.
       
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    11. Shelly75

      Shelly75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      20/07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Wow. This group has reached another level of venom and nastiness. I don’t blame him for bailing out.
       
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    12. Gman

      Gman Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ototoxic earwax drops, neck, chiari, noise, life.
      Maybe but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
       
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    13. incelitus
      Question it

      incelitus Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      qtip gangbang/kurt cobain
      Implying these people don't already only listen to broken bass saturated garbage.
       
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    14. Phendran
      Benevolent

      Phendran Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Being in our fleet for a long time makes one tired and bitter about the repeated assumptions made about everyone's equality in suffering and general experience. The idea that everyone is capable of, or has the opportunity to succeed with moving on(assuming habituation) where one individual has succeeded through luck, wealth, or sheer force of will, disregards the fact(s) of our diversity.

      In the end, the best way to be rid of all this, I think, is to cure everyone.
       
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    15. AZeurotuner

      AZeurotuner Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I think there's something to be said about a group of people who are feeling down feeding off each other though. I've talked to a lot of older folks with T, some of which say it is LOUD and have hearing damage so severe they can barely hear even with their aids in. They tell me that it annoys them sometimes, but that most of the time they don't think about it. Nobody I've talked has been on a forum with other T sufferers.

      It's akin to confirmation bias. You hear a bunch of others talking of how they can't cope, are considering suicide, and so forth and your thoughts on Tinnitus being hopeless are just further reinforced. And if you did have hope before, reading all the horror stories and such can start to erode it.

      At one point I felt hopeless myself, I had a horrible incident that greatly increased the volume of my tinnitus, brought about many more tones, and pain in my ears. I discovered Tinnitus talk and read posts from other members that made me feel even worse. I became massively worried about my tinnitus getting worse, telling my family that I "wouldn't be able to live" if it did. I started to wear hearing protection everywhere and became so depressed I stated drinking everyday just to cope.

      I would read posts by members such as @Ed209 and think to myself, "there's no way I could do that, either he's just wired differently, crazy, or his Tinnitus isn't that bad". I thought it was IMPOSSIBLE for me to get better, to see my friends again, to start dating again, to even be able to go to the store without wearing heavy duty ear muffs.

      But I thought that I HAD to try something, because sitting around slowly drinking my to death wasn't doing me any favors. Although skeptical, I began to make steps to address my sensitively to noise, some setbacks happened, but I put my faith in members that had assured me it would get better. It saved my life.

      I know I can be a bit abrasive at times, but I mean well. It saddens me to hear people say things like they'll off themselves if mute button fails. I don't want that for anyone on this forum, even my "enemies", mindstates can change, but suicide is permanent.

      I just want people to know that things have the potential to get better if they can shake the mentality that tinnitus is the worst thing in the world. Some will call that "diminishing their suffering" but my answer to that is, "how do you expect to get better if you believe you have the most severe, devastating, debilitating condition in the world?".

      You have to change the way you think, the way you view tinnitus, or it will swallow you up. Sure, sometimes you'll have bad days, but you'll have good ones too. Days that will remind you why you put up with all of life's trials and tribulations in the first place.

      Best regards,
      Ross
       
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    16. Autumnly
      Wishful

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      Tinnitus Since:
      July/August 2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      You don't believe it can be debilitating, we get it. There's a difference between telling someone that a concert might permanently worsen their tinnitus and you going around saying tinnitus can't be debilitating and that you can overcome it if you just try hard enough. Not everyone can live a normal life with this condition, it's a spectrum just like chronic pain.
       
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    17. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I suspect he is having a spike and is too ashamed to tell us about it. If I am right, he has correctly anticipated that eventually people will ask him about the state of his T, and so he found a way to not have to answer this question and lose his face.

      If this were a forum for people with severe peanut allergies, and a person were to write that he is currently enjoying a meal of peanuts and people were to express what they think about the madness of it all, would you also make a post about venom and nastiness?!
       
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    18. AZeurotuner

      AZeurotuner Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Hyperacusis and tinnitus can absolutely be debilitating. At one point I wouldn't leave my house for weeks at a time. H can absolutely get better if you make steps to address it. It seems as if pretty much everyone who says T is impossible to cope with has untreated hyperacusis. Have you made any steps towards treating yours? And I don't ask that in a rude manner, serious question.
       
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    19. Autumnly
      Wishful

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      Tinnitus Since:
      July/August 2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Wouldn't say that as a fact, there are multiple stories of people who've had severe hyperacusis for years and who have tried to desensitize their ears. However, even within the hyperacusis "community", there are people who believe we don't need treatments for it because you just haven't found the right white noise for yourself yet if you haven't gotten better.
      Again, this boils down to loudness doesn't matter and tinnitus in itself can't be debilitating.
      I have, but all the CBT in the world doesn't allow me to even live a semi-normal life if I continue to develop 1-2 new tones every year.
       
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    20. AZeurotuner

      AZeurotuner Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      How long did you do CBT? And I never said loudness doesn't matter. I just think that the "spikes" (as well as the fear of whether or not they'll be permanent) and pain caused by H is a big factor in overall debilitation.
       
    21. Autumnly
      Wishful

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      Tinnitus Since:
      July/August 2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Months of weekly sessions, on and off over the years. I'm also currently seeing a therapist and have been for a few months, 60-90 minutes every week. Plus acupuncture, Chinese medicine, every type of yoga there is, qi gong, meditation, you name it. But I don't want to derail the thread, feel free to PM me.
       
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    22. AZeurotuner

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      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      It's funny that you talk about diminishing suffering and post things like this. I just saw this for the first time when I went to send you a PM.

      "@AZeurotuner Dude, learn some compassion. I had a migraine once and it really wasn't that bad and I know I was lucky."

      First off, migraines very in severity, but even a low scale one is quite painful. You likely just had a really bad headache. You are however, a hypocrite. And at this point I believe you'll say anything to "win" your battle with me. You likely did a few sessions before jumping to the conclusion that's its hopeless.
       
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    23. Autumnly
      Wishful

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      Tinnitus Since:
      July/August 2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      That's exactly what I meant, migraines are different for different people same as tinnitus and both conditions can vary in intensity. I know I was lucky my migraine wasn't that bad - I mean, pain wise, it left me with visual snow and constant pressure and pain behind and around one eye. And yes, it was a migraine with a visual aura but I suffer from chronic pain, so perhaps that's why the migraine wasn't as bad for me. I also commented under that post:

      "Migraines can be different for different people, same as tinnitus. If you don't think tinnitus can be debilitating, just stop mocking people who are suffering. "
      No, that's not true. I had months of CBT on and off and I'm currently seeing someone again. I'm not paying roughly 300 euros every month just for fun. I have had tinnitus since 2013 and have developed several new, permanent tones over the years. I've also never said I'm hopeless or that tinnitus is the worst condition in the world but that with the way my tinnitus is right now, I'm unable to work or live a normal life.

      Edit: I'm also not trying to convince anyone that their situation is hopeless but we can't continue to only talk about the nice side of tinnitus.
       
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    24. AZeurotuner

      AZeurotuner Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I never mocked anyone. I have been in a terrible place myself, a very dark one filled with nothing but hopelessness and despair.

      If I misread that message I apologize. It looked as if you had some sort of personal vendetta against me and I thought you might say anything just to oppose me.

      Regarding your therapy, more consistency might be helpful. Or it could be that you're just not with the right therapist. Maybe chronic pain is factoring in. I don't know you personally so it's hard to say for sure.

      If I can help just one person resist going down that path I was it's worth all the crap I get from people on here. You have to remember, I'm not talking directly to you. You might have some things going on that are more complicated than most. But do I think the vast majority of those that are in the "hopeless" category can get better? Yes, I definitely do.
       
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    25. ArtVandalay

      ArtVandalay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      I have lingered here awhile and clearly see a pattern when someone posts a success story, the same crew rain down a sea of shit on the OP for, I dont know, being happy, moving on with their lives.

      Clearly the OP is aware of the risks and is willing to take them. A very simple, yeah for resuming your life, ears be damned should suffice. Surprisingly there are people that can get on with their lives despite the very best efforts of some here to deter that.
       
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    26. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I really hope that you will follow OP's example and resume your life - ears be damned. Instead of discouraging you, I am Begging you to Make My Day and do it.

      Is this the kind of a response you would prefer seeing around here?
       
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    27. ArtVandalay

      ArtVandalay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      No need to beg Billy, I did resume my life ears be damned. I go to the grocery store (your fav) without earmuffs, omg!! I even go to movies and bars too!! Such a risk taker I am, I tell ya. And you know what I'm doing great! You yourself said you dont like making compromises ie. Dealing with humans - and you project your thoughts on others by making them fearful of everyday noises. No a rave is not an everyday noise but the OP is aware of the risks and will be using hearing protection. He is good with that and you should be too.
       
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    28. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
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    29. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

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      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      By the way, in the first clip, the people filming are telling him not to do it. In the second clip, they are encouraging him to go ahead with his plan. It is amazing that there are people out there who think that the latter approach is healthier than the former approach...
       
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    30. linearb
      Psychedelic

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      karma
      OP describes the experience of 95% of people I know with tinnitus, with the caveat that the activity in question isn't always music. Of course, no one else I've ever met in the real world has made an account on this site.

      With raves I'd be more concerned about poor quality music mixed badly and sketchy designer drugs and wookies smoking DMT in the toilets and all that
       

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