I'm Sure That Curing Tinnitus/Hearing Loss Is This Simple (Raw Sea Anemone / Traditional Medicine)

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by Max17903, Jan 19, 2019.

    1. JohnAdams
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      Unless it's me, I'm fair game.
       
    2. another sean
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      no u
       
    3. Bill Bauer
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      No, uncovering a worldwide conspiracy that had a hold on billions of people for over a century would do it. One could write a book, and would then be set for life.
       
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      Already done by Aajonus Vonderplanitz. He wrote the book We Want to Live, revealing the corruption of the medical industry. Fame would only occur if people read the book. Most people have never even heard of who he is.

      People are more interested in watching Netflix and playing video games than some boring book about health. Young people especially, because disease mostly affects older people. When you are young, you don't really think about what will happen years down the line.

      To older people, it all sounds like a scam. Someone could write a book like that and sell it to gullible people, but the studies have been done and anecdotal evidence supports it.
       
    5. TuxedoCat
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      The Japanese eat sushi. But, I wonder what the first guy to eat raw blowfish would say about that? Nothing of course, he's dead.
       
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      Many species of blowfish are poisonous. Sea anemone just sting. The only real problem that could happen is an alergic reaction. They don't sting nearly as much as jellyfish or bees, and our skin is too thick for it to cause any pain. I'm not sure about our tongues, but it can't be that bad. Getting stung a few times would eventually lead to immunity.

      Here's a video of someone poking a sea anemone:
      Sticking finger into Sea Anemone
       
    7. JohnAdams
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      No u.
       
    8. JohnAdams
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      You're trying to convince us to try something that you wont do yourself. Take a hike.
       
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      I would do it myself, but it's hard to get sea anemone. Just try to get sea anemone right now. It's very difficult. I don't really expect anyone here to be able to get it. Feel free to watch this thread, because some day I will find a way to get it. I will definitely post the results here, with audiograms before and after, along with the quantity I ate and how long it took.
       
    10. JohnAdams
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      Not gonna work bro. I promise.
       
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      If you have not tried it, how would you know? This is just your opinion. I have no idea whether or not it will work. There's no point in not trying just because it seems unlikely to you. It makes a lot of sense from a traditional medicine standpoint.
       
    12. JohnAdams
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      You can buy them online. They are expensive though.
      https://vividaquariums.com/collections/anemones
       
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      That's exactly what I mean. It would cost a lot to eat sea anemone every day for a few weeks. Ordering in bulk would not be a good idea because they need to be kept alive. If they starve to death, they would not be able to secrete the proteins to regenerate their damaged hair cells. You would have to know how to feed them and buy a tank to keep them in.

      It sounds like a dumb idea. When you really think about it, it's a really, really stupid idea. But it's so stupid, it might actually work.

      There's only one way to find out.
       
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    14. Bill Bauer
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      Corruption in the medical industry is Not the same as traditional medicine consistently producing better outcomes than the modern medicine.

      If the difference between those outcomes is large, it should be very easy to prove that there is a difference. There are plenty of people who refuse to be treated by modern doctors and turn to traditional medicine. All one would have to do, is document what happens to them.
       
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      Healing brain cancer: https://zerocarbzen.com/2015/05/31/...ro-carb-ketogenic-diet-by-andrew-scarborough/

      Reversing diabetes:

      Screenshot 2019-01-20 at 17.54.04.png

      (Diabetes is a serious long term medical condition that is not supposed to be reversible)

      There are many other examples out there. I won't find them all for you.
       
    16. Bill Bauer
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      These are case studies. They don't prove anything besides the fact that more research is needed. A research study would have a decent sample size. You want to estimate the probability that the treatment works. Finding a random person who went into remission does not tell you anything about this probability.
       
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      If eating raw sea anemone was guaranteed to cure tinnitus/hearing loss, would you eat it? What if it only works in 50% of people? 25%? 10%? At what point would you not bother trying? There is always a possibility that it only works for some people.

      There is only one way to find out if it works for you.
       
    18. Bill Bauer
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      It would depend on the downside. Many T treatments (e.g., Amitriptyline) make T quieter for some patients and make it louder for other patients.
       
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      Treatments involving drugs come with side effects. Sometimes those side effects make the problem that the drug is trying to solve worse. Food does not do that. The worst thing that could happen would be an alergic reaction, which is pretty unlikely.
       
    20. RaZaH
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      This makes no sense , "There is only one way to find out if it works for you." could be said of anything ?
       
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    21. Bill Bauer
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      It also won't cure any serious illnesses.
       
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      Waiting for extensive research to be done on something requires a lot of patience. When the only real risk is an alergic reaction, you do not have much to lose. The price is pretty expensive though.
       
    23. RaZaH
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      Not much to lose but not much to gain either , why on earth would this do anything for tinnitus ?
       
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      So diabetes and cancer are not serious illnesses? What is your definition of a serious illness?
       
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      How is having tinnitus and hearing loss cured not much to gain? Some people here would be willing to try this. I already plan to.
       
    26. RaZaH
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      You would have to make the assumption that this would do anything ? Why do you think that ?
       
    27. Bill Bauer
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      Food won't cure diabetes and cancer. One in X (where X is a large number like 10,000) patients gets to experience a remission. Sometimes they confuse this with being "cured".
       
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      This is a traditional medicine approach. In traditional medicine, if you had something wrong with an organ, you would eat that organ of an animal to heal it. There is a reason why this was posted in Alternative Treatments and Research forum.

      There's a possibility it will work. There's a possibility it won't. I don't see why there isn't much to gain just by trying. Even just a possibility that it will work is still something. You have a lot to lose if you don't even try it. You would lose the possibility of not hearing tinnitus anymore and not wearing hearing aids later in life.
       
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      If you would just take a look at the anecdotal evidence on reddit.com/r/keto, it does not look even close to one in 10,000. You seem to not want to believe that this could work. It's your loss.
       
    30. JohnAdams
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      there needs to be better cross-talk between modern medical practices and common sense practices in traditional medicine. the modern medical industry needs to also go back and place a greater emphasis on the hippocratic oath. medicine is about helping people which involves altruism. when you are trying to "help" people with medicine with the goal of maximizing profits so long as you use FDA regulations as your moral compass then you have no business trying to help people, because you're not, you're trying to help yourself.

      "Do no harm"

      has become

      "I'll do whatever I can within the confines of government regulations to help you so long as it helps me too."
       
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