Is There Any Organisation That Provides Euthanasia for Tinnitus?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Liam_Cairns, May 26, 2019.

    1. Fangen
      Moonlighting

      Fangen Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Stockholm, Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2nd, 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma (loud concert for 1h)
      Don't tell me what I know or don't know.
      My sister killed herself by jumping from a 7 story building. She sure found a way to die.
       
    2. Fangen
      Moonlighting

      Fangen Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Stockholm, Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2nd, 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma (loud concert for 1h)
      That's an entirely different thing to want to die if you're already chronically ill to the point that it's not if you will die, but when. Seeking assistance for suicide because you have tinnitus is not the same thing as having a brain degenerative disease.
       
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    3. Autumnly
      Wishful

      Autumnly Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise-induced
      True, but severe tinnitus and severe pain-hyperacusis can make life unbearable and if you're not part of the lucky ones that improve, then what? Continue to suffer for years, decades while you watch your life pass you by?

      Edit: I don't know if OP is in this group. I truly hope he isn't and I hope it will get better for him or that new medical treatments will be able to reduce his suffering.
       
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      Liam_Cairns

      Liam_Cairns Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Originally loud Music and was worsened by Micro-suction
      I'm so sorry your sister killed herself, this post was never meant to insult anyone. I am just suffering.
       
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    5. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      The question was around the word "dignified" and what it meant in the context of death, not whether euthanasia was appropriate for this or that circumstance. That's what I was addressing.
       
    6. ajc

      ajc Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
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    7. punkaddict
      Cynical

      punkaddict Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Self-syringing (I think?)
      I've been seeing a lot of talk about Neuromod which I think will be helpful but very little on Frequency Therapeutics and Decibel Therapeutics's efforts. I for one believe both hold a lot of promise for those with acoustic trauma, which is a lot of us. Is this false hope? Am I being irrational for thinking this?
      Sure, it may be a lot further away than Neuromod but if the main cause is cured, then I see no reason why tinnitus should continue after neuromodulation/time.

      Idk maybe I'm wrong. Maybe neither will do shit or just very little, in which case I'll be another to advocate for euthanasia, but this hope keeps me going at least.
       
    8. arctic loon
      Dreaming

      arctic loon Member

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud music
      Have you heard of a new clinic in Switzerland, called Pegasos Swiss? They supposedly accept everyone (except mental illness as main diagnosis).

      This could potentially be the first legal route for those outside Belgium/Netherlands. I wonder what their views are on tinnitus and hyperacusis patients.

      https://pegasos-association.com/welcome/
       
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    9. PeteJ
      Aggressive

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      That's interesting. But, I think in Swiss law, there is still the requirement: "person must be suffering intolerably from a severe illness with a medical diagnosis from a doctor."

      Is tinnitus considered such to qualify?

      To answer a question about the exit bag, I think the tanks are now 50/50 so wouldn't work. The concept is still valid, though.

      Also, that girl Fangen, who snapped at me and linearb and others who think suicide is simple, I have news for you:

      It's not. If you decide to jump off a building, you can end up paralyzed. You need to analyze it via physics and if you do it wrong, you will have more suffering. Many variables are in play. That includes hanging and other methods. So, don't tell me 'if you want to, you just will.' That's bullshit and I suspect deep down, you know it.
       
    10. Yuuls
      Dreaming

      Yuuls Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Hi @coffee_girl! Are you still living in SF. I also live in the city (3 years now) and am having a hard time adjusting to living here since the onset of my tinnitus. Wondering if you have any sort of advise/coping strategies or recommendations for activities/restaurants and bars here that aren’t loud :)
       
    11. Harley

      Harley Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      Tinnitus first destroys a person mentally, then physically.
      The continuous torture and 24/7 suffering leaves people completely exhausted.

      In the absence of cure or a real treatment, suicide seems to be the next logical step.
      That seems to be the only way to escape the horrible noise as it stands right now.

      The issue of tinnitus euthanasia should be at the very least brought up by the likes of the ATA and BTA I would think.
       
    12. ThomasF
      Creative

      ThomasF Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      2001
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably loud music
      I am considering saving up money to take a trip to the Netherlands and apply for Euthanasia/Assisted suicide.

      I need more of a promise of a treatment or a cure. As it stands, it's something of a desert of waiting for trials that take a great amount of time for any results to come forward.

      I genuinely don't know what else to do. I want my life back and I cannot get it back. I can't sleep. I try to stay positive but even stem cells seem to be only so effective. Tinnitus isn't considered a serious condition, it's like chronic pain but it's played off as being overblown. I want things to get better but I don't know how.
       
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    13. AnthonyMcDonald
      Confused

      AnthonyMcDonald Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Hey man. I know it's really hard. I don't want to sound like a broken record but it will definitely get better with time. You said that you hear it in a quiet room only? I understand the anxiety that it causes and you feel like your life is over, but trust me, it's not.

      I had suicidal constantly worsening tinnitus every day from <30 dB noise (or none at all) and all I thought about every day was death. It kept getting louder and louder every day. My hyperacusis was so bad that dropping a small plastic thing in the floor would cause me insane permanent worsening and new tones of tinnitus and worsen my hyperacusis.

      After over a year of torture I gave myself time and eventually improved (at least the hyperacusis and tinnitus reactivity). My tinnitus stabilized a bit, and even though it's at music volume (>65 dB without exaggeration) with multiple tones, and can spike permanently from something like a too long car ride in double protection, I have started to enjoy life again somewhat and am able to do some things that I couldn't even dream of ever doing again. Don't give up hope. It will get better with time. Please give yourself time.
       
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    14. dan
      Chatty

      dan Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Very good advice. Listen to this because it's true. Tinnitus (barring 80 dB catastrophic levels) is something you think you will never ever accept or get used to, but eventually you do, and that's a fact.

      If you can only hear it in quiet, I am willing to bet my life savings that you will totally get your life back.

      Tinnitus habituation is counterintuitive. You can accept it now, or bitch and moan about it for the next 1-2 years, but either way it's going to happen for you.
       
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    15. Wrfortiscue
      Cowabunga

      Wrfortiscue Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Trauma
      Just being in silence got you better?
       
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    16. GuitarMan

      GuitarMan Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Mild hearing loss due to high volume sounds
      The double protection isn't doing you any favors. IMO, putting earphones over earplugs creates a kind of echo chamber and concentrates the sound inside the cups more. I'm not sure how it works but I've experienced it when at the shooting range.
       
    17. AnthonyMcDonald
      Confused

      AnthonyMcDonald Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      This is the only thing I did differently yeah.
       
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    18. AnthonyMcDonald
      Confused

      AnthonyMcDonald Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Yeah I usually only wear earmuffs now, without earplugs.
       
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    19. Tom Foster

      Tom Foster Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Fire service siren
      @Liam_Cairns, gosh I feel for you and I understand you. I Googled the same and your post came up.

      On looking at your picture, you are so young and have your whole life ahead of you. Myself, I'm 66 and have had a great life. I've done everything I wanted to do, but there comes a time when 24/7/365 noise becomes unbearable.

      I'm in the process of getting rid of things that will be problem to my family and also getting them used to the fact that when I decide it's time, they honour my wishes.

      The Netherlands seems to be the place, but you have to get 2 doctors to certify they cannot help you.

      Tom
       
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