Lenire — Bimodal Stimulation Treatment by Neuromod

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by Tinnitus Talk, Apr 20, 2019.

    1. BigNick

      BigNick Member

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    2. TheDanishGirl
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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Ummm, no?
       
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    3. Allan1967

      Allan1967 Member Benefactor

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      I wouldn't burn your masker just yet mate.
       
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    4. GlennS

      GlennS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
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      Loud music
      It's unfortunate that you're not improving, Allan, but please don't channel your frustration into conspiracy theories.
       
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    5. annV
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      annV Member

      Tinnitus Since:
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      unknown - possibly hereditary
      IIRC = If I Recall/Remember Correctly.
       
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    6. Redknight

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      The white noise isn't pleasant for me, I blame it on the temporary spike I get. If it isn't necessary for the treatment they should remove it.
       
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    7. Bndsmheowqhe

      Bndsmheowqhe Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
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      Loud noise exposure
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    8. Allan1967

      Allan1967 Member Benefactor

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      I can actually hear my tinnitus increasing as the session gets half way through and it almost blends in with the white noise. They are calling me next week as part of the follow up process so I'll ask about it.
       
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    9. GSC
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      GSC Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      It's really hard to determine if this is working or not. Hopefully for the User Experience Group the admins are taking note for how long each person has had tinnitus. Because if you had it a year, or under a year, it could be natural healing, or placebo with stress induced tinnitus? Who knows.

      I think the real hardcore proof that this works will be with people who have noise induced tinnitus and are 2 year+ sufferers.
       
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    10. Hazel
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      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      one-sided hearing loss (of unknown origin)
      Yes we're collecting that data!
       
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    11. TheDanishGirl
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      TheDanishGirl Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Very much agree. And I am very happy Hazel confirmed that they are collecting that data, as I find it utterly important to determine the credibility of this device.
       
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    12. Manny
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      Manny Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      I feel with the User Experience Group that with Markku, Hazel and PeterPan we are in good hands. Thanks a lot you guys.
       
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    13. Agrajag364

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      Agree. That analysis will be gold dust.

      Unprecedented for a support group.
       
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    14. GlennS

      GlennS Member

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      Loud music
      Accusing people of being paid shills is not valid criticism.
       
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    15. jay777

      jay777 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      benzo/ headphones
      Can anyone tell me the loudness of the sounds in dB you have to listen to via the headphones?
       
    16. ChrisBoyMonkey

      ChrisBoyMonkey Member Podcast Patron

      Location:
      CA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      U.S. Army/Field Artillery Veteran / loud computer
      It could be that the device speeds up natural healing for the newer cases.
       
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    17. Mathew Gould

      Mathew Gould Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/Jaw misalignment
      My tinnitus sound is like white noise or almost a static sound. I wonder if that's good?
       
    18. Bndsmheowqhe

      Bndsmheowqhe Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise exposure
      I don't remember saying that it was.
       
    19. Benoves

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      Tinnitus Since:
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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknow possibly noise trauma
      @kelpiemsp had tinnitus for his whole life.
       
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    20. ChrisBoyMonkey

      ChrisBoyMonkey Member Podcast Patron

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      I was saying that for those that are saying it might just be natural healing and not the treatment. It could be the treatment doing its job by speeding it up for the newer cases. I didn't say anything about longer ones, and personally I hope it can help everyone.
       
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    21. ruud1boy

      ruud1boy Member Benefactor

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      Have you tried turning the volume and / or the tonguetip down a bit Allan?

      I find the tonguetip is barely noticeable, but I turn the volume down by 2 clicks on the headphones on every session. It says in the book that the default settings should be left alone, but when I got the gear, Ciara said it was fine to adjust it as necessary. Also, Caroline said adjusting the settings wouldn't affect the efficacy of the treatment.

      Alternatively, they did say it was feasible to take a few days' break from the treatment regime if you were struggling with it. Don't give up on it entirely dude.
       
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    22. TheDanishGirl
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      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Yeah, but fact is we can't know, and for me the most important thing right now is finally finding out exactly how effective this device is, and we are not going to find that out by people who have the treatment in the natural healing phase which is roughly the first 6-24 months.

      Of course I wish all people who are having the treatment the very best of luck and I truly hope their tinnitus lowers, but personally I can't use the reports from people with "new" tinnitus for anything.
       
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    23. Don Tinny

      Don Tinny Member

      Location:
      Argentina
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017 (worsening)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert with ear plugs
      I try to be optimistic about Lenire but don't forget that it's not the University of Minnesota device. Even if Hubert Lim is involved in both projects.
       
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    24. Mentos

      Mentos Member Benefactor

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      Noise induced, loud rock concert
      The only way to know for sure if it works for you is to give it a try, testimonials will never give you an answer.
       
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    25. GlennS

      GlennS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Then be advised that memes tend to have broad interpretations.
       
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    26. Martin69
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      Martin69 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
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      (Health) Anxiety
      @Allan1967,

      I really hope it gets better for you. Stay strong and confident.
      As far as I remember, EVERY participant's tinnitus in the clinical trial at least went back to baseline, even if it got louder in the beginning. It is worth to keep on going. Maybe they can remove the white noise from the sounds.

      If people here report a big improvement, this is really great and I am glad for them.

      But I am coming from a very high THI score and severe tinnitus having it for almost 6 years.
      I am mostly interested in the severe cases and if they have success.

      Hopefully, this device is soon available in Germany.
       
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    27. Bndsmheowqhe

      Bndsmheowqhe Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise exposure
      Be advised that I'm not responsible for managing your broad assumptions.
       
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    28. Sironketchup

      Sironketchup Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress
      I think every report helps a lot. If @Redknight has had tinnitus for 5 months it can hardly be coincidence that it's fading now just when he started the treatment.
      I for myself cannot wait to get my appointment, and if this doesn't work, I will get my hands on Dr. Shore's device.

      Another question:

      Lenire is targeting the DCN, right?

      My tinnitus is pretty somatic, 1000 crickets in my head and I have no measurable hearing loss.
      Could that be considered a positive expectation for a successful treatment with bimodal stimulation?

      Cheers, have a good weekend!
       
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    29. Allan1967

      Allan1967 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      What are the differences between the two?
       
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    30. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      barotrauma, noise exposure, TMJ, neck?
      I'm not trying to be negative, but is the Lenire returnable for a refund if it doesn't help your tinnitus? I had a SoundCure and I returned it after 2 months for a full refund. I was just wondering what the policy was on the Lenire. I do hope it works for most people as we need something for relief.

      I know it won't be available for quite some time in the U.S. anyway. I guess we will have to see how it pans out in Europe.
       

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