LLLT Treatment Journal: Lucky Laser Device for Reversing Hearing Loss & Tinnitus

[ruben ruiz]

I read this thread that a laser was aimed behind the ear instead of in the ear.
Wholly Jesus. I did this and a great sleep came to me.

I slept for three hours or so. Then I woke and fell to sleep yet again without meds. This is where it gets real weird
I had and out of body experience. I had like a major jolt, I thought it was a heart attack and I was dead. But I popped up and I wasnt dead.
All in all I slept about 4 hours without meds using the unit. I dont feel so well today my clock is way off.
But Im going to try the laser on a schedule with the meds. I was knocked out. I havent slept naturally in three years.
I would love to ba able to sleep and take less meds.

 

[luka]

26.8.2015 Update:

Laser treatment every 4-5 days for about half an hour:

No change. T and hearing loss feels at the same level.

Best,

Luka

 

[japongus]

3. With this week I've started with LLLT treatment with Lucky Laser device.
The price of the device is roughly 1500$ + 200$ shipment costs and it looks like this:
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Sorry to hear it's not going well for you.

Was that price with the massive import tariffs western countries put on chinese imports or were you lucky?

 

[luka]

Sorry to hear it's not going well for you.

Well, I had some improvements. Not sure if they were from laser or not.. I'll keep trying laser this year or maybe two and I'll track the audiogram improvements. Doctors said that it should stabile for me now and additional improvements are highly unlikely. So if there is audiogram change, that's good news. Time will tell.
Hopefully I will shine some light on this topic to some other unfortunate tinnitus sufferers that got noise induced hearing loss and T..

Was that price with the massive import tariffs western countries put on chinese imports or were you lucky?

This was without the tax. I was lucky and it went through. I had to provide proof on what I was buying and they wanted bills etc.. Luckily the lady I was dealing with was really cool and let me through, otherwise I would have to pay additional 30%.

 

[japongus]

Well, I had some improvements. Not sure if they were from laser or not.. I'll keep trying laser this year or maybe two and I'll track the audiogram improvements. Doctors said that it should stabile for me now and additional improvements are highly unlikely. So if there is audiogram change, that's good news. Time will tell.
Hopefully I will shine some light on this topic to some other unfortunate tinnitus sufferers that got noise induced hearing loss and T..

Which doctors have said that after short term (how short btw?) additional improvements are highly unlikely? afaik, wilden, for example, is one who believes in long-term treatments, no? or maybe its because he sells home lasers from ibiza where no one that isnt a drunk german lives.

This was without the tax. I was lucky and it went through. I had to provide proof on what I was buying and they wanted bills etc.. Luckily the lady I was dealing with was really cool and let me through, otherwise I would have to pay additional 30%.

so they take the value of the bills we show at face value? cuz afaik import tarriffs are huge all across the board with few exceptions, at least where i am.

 

[luka]

Which doctors have said that after short term (how short btw?) additional improvements are highly unlikely? afaik, wilden, for example, is one who believes in long-term treatments, no? or maybe its because he sells home lasers from ibiza where no one that isnt a drunk german lives.

Regular hospital ENT. He says that the time to see any recovery is about 1 year. After that the recovery stops. I think this is standard opinion in medicine, and it originates from some long term study which measured hearing improvements on soldiers or something for 5 years or so..

so they take the value of the bills we show at face value? cuz afaik import tarriffs are huge all across the board with few exceptions, at least where i am.

It's something like 20% to 30% of base value in my country (Slovenia)

 

[LiPe]

Thanks Luka and everyone else on documenting your hearing health journey. I have lived with tinnitus and sensorineural hearing loss for a little over 10 years. As you know, some days are better than others. I am now trying lots of eastern remedies like massages, reiki, etc. I continue to engage in this commentary. I find it very supportive.

 

[luka]

Hi,

I was totally busy last couple of months. If what Tinnitus helped me to be more focused on my business, so this is a plus. And although it's really loud it fades in the background when I'm totally focused on something else.

Anyway, I've used the laser maybe once a week for half an hour.

I don't notice any difference or anything, so I'm not exactly sure on how or if it helped in my case of an acoustic traume.
I'll probably do more with treatment this month and I'll keep you guys posted.

Best,

Luka

 

[Mithrandir]

Hey Luka, how are you with the laser ? Did you make recently an audiogram to compare with before using a laser ?

Best,

Mithrandir

 

[luka]

Hi everybody, it's been a while since I've posted here.

Just to give an update where I'm currently at:

I've been using the laser for about 5 months. My hearing didn't improve significantly while using the laser. I'll try to get meeting audiogram in next months.

My tinnitus, while it's still there, I rarely notice it anymore. It happened over the time and I'm not sure what helped exactly.

I hadn't been using a laser for almost 2 years now. That's why, along with the current financial need, I'm considering selling it.

I've bought it here http://www.lucky-laser.com/productview.php?id=LK-COMBI from order was handled by Lady named Lulu. The laser cost me: 1608$ + duty fee to get it in Europe.
Here are the latest (19.8.2018) images of Laser.

 

[Deathtotinni]

Sorry to say but, it's all snake oil.

Cold lasers are not snake oil. They are proven to work. Getting the laser deep enough to shine on the cochlear is the hard part.

 

[John Meyers]

Cold lasers are not snake oil. They are proven to work. Getting the laser deep enough to shine on the cochlear is the hard part.

I agree and plan to try this but on a more affordable scale.

So far, I've located the following:
1. 20w LED light (eBay)
2. heat sink (eBay)
3. still locating a power source (and figuring out how to hook that up)

My concern is that this won't work since it is not a pointed direct beam of LED light if I assemble this on my own but I don't have much to lose since it will only cost about $30 total to try..

 

[Caveman]

Hi everybody, it's been a while since I've posted here.

Just to give an update where I'm currently at:

I've been using the laser for about 5 months. My hearing didn't improve significantly while using the laser. I'll try to get meeting audiogram in next months.

My tinnitus, while it's still there, I rarely notice it anymore. It happened over the time and I'm not sure what helped exactly.

I hadn't been using a laser for almost 2 years now. That's why, along with the current financial need, I'm considering selling it.

I've bought it here http://www.lucky-laser.com/productview.php?id=LK-COMBI from order was handled by Lady named Lulu. The laser cost me: 1608$ + duty fee to get it in Europe.
Here are the latest (19.8.2018) images of Laser.


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So... have you had other audiograms to confirm the improvements, in the meanwhile?

 

[luka]

Hi everyone,

It has been over 10 years since the accident that caused significant hearing loss in my right ear, along with constant tinnitus. I lost most of the frequencies between 750 Hz and 6 kHz, which made it harder to follow conversations since that is the range where most speech happens.

The first few years were really tough. One of the hardest parts was the guilt. The tinnitus felt like a constant reminder that I had done something wrong. I kept asking myself why I made the mistake of going to that concert.

These days, my tinnitus is still bad. But I have learned to live with it. Would I prefer not to have it? Of course. But I can handle it. I have also adapted to the hearing loss. In group settings like birthdays or lunches, I sit on the left side so I can hear better. I avoid loud places, and if I do go, I wear earplugs.

After the accident, I needed a distraction and I found it in work. I was running a small startup at the time. That startup grew and today we have over 120 people working with us. I bought a house. I have three small children now. And when I think about it, I am happy. I would not change my life. Maybe it all would have turned out differently if the accident had not happened.

About the Lucky Laser. I only used it a few more times. I bought it after reading about it here on the Tinnitus Talk forum. I paid around 1600 dollars for it. Now it is just sitting in my closet. Some people here said it helped their hearing. For me, I did not see big improvements, but maybe I did not give it enough time. I had other things on my plate and was not fully consistent with it.

If anyone wants the laser, I can send it by post. It still works and has not been used much. I will not give it away for free, but I will offer it at a big discount. I do not think I will use it again.

That is it from me. My Tinnitus Talk journey ends here. Maybe I will check in with an update in a few years. If you are interested in the laser, just message me privately and we will sort it out.

I wish you all good health. May your tinnitus stay quiet and your hearing stay strong.

Luka