Solsaem Clinic (Dr. Minbo Shim) Experience

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    1. Jack Straw
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      1990s
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      Infection, Acoustic Trauma
      Any additional changes?
       
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    2. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

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      1992
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      Loud music
      Not everyone has the money to burn on something that untested.
       
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    3. Ecip

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      Edmonton, AB/Switzerland
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      4.11.2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
      I'd like to think that it's in the brain, because then, devices like MuteButton would have a good chance at working.

      But I fear that it is truly my ears that are somehow fucked... would these devices then still work?
       
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    4. Tom Cnyc

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      05/2016
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      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      Given all the meme-ing, I'd assume you'd have a better sense of humor.

      Exchange Trump for Kim Jong-Un with the same joke if it makes you feel better.
       
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      JohnAdams
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      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      Yeah, the first from the Tinnitus Talk forum. I'm definitely the first American to try it.
       
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    6. Bam

      Bam Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Some of us have pissed away far more money than you gave to Minbo on idiotic crap and total scammers to try and cure this.

      You did the right thing John whatever the outcome. You gave yourself hope and a shot at getting your life back and you did it bravely amidst a chorus of naysayers.

      I really hope it works mate...... You deserve a good result. But if not. Fuck it. You can still feed your family. You still have a job and a roof over your head. You’re still in the game for some bimodal action.
       
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      That's pretty much it. One thing I forgot to mention is that beforehand, I had basically lost the ability to discern the direction that a noise was coming from and that has improved. My right ear feels like it is almost completely recovered. We will see if this feeling is reflected on my audiogram. Something is definitely happening.

      One thing I am wondering about is this: Things are sounding clearer, but I keep getting a few days here and there where I will get spikes for no apparent reason and it will feel like I'm back to square one and I'm wondering that if my hearing is being restored, is my brain still creating the tinnitus signal because it just has for so long and it has to get used to the inputs again and rewire itself to chill out when there is no input?
       
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    8. Bam

      Bam Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Minbo’s pimped the ears. Now you just need to reboot the brain. Maybe get your kid to whack you over the head a few times. Or ask your wife to run you over.
       
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      JohnAdams
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      Do we have to 'get' the Sun to rise in the morning? Or 'get' the seasons to change?
       
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    10. Ray552

      Ray552 Member

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      Noise trauma
      Hey @JohnAdams how much longer do you have till you do your final audiogram post Minbo shim treatment?
       
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      Like a month.
       
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      I seriously hope so.
       
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      JohnAdams
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      So what do you think about ACRN then?
       
    14. Jazzer

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      From my own perspective Daniel:

      Being a pro musician I was obviously in the firing line.
      I was playing 4 to 5 nights a week for over 50 years - 3 to 4 hours a night
      I was still doing okay until one day in mid 2014 when a musician blasted off very loud in my face for just a few seconds.
      That acoustic trauma destroyed my hearing.
      My life would never be the same again.

      Now - knowing that ‘volume’ caused my acoustic trauma - why on earth would I choose to amplify anything going into my cochleae.
      Absolutely no way would I do that.
      I have two good sets of hearing aids which I know I will never use.
      My actual hearing is not bad.
      I never struggle with speech.
      Just my view Daniel. x
       
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    15. grate_biff
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      grate_biff Member Benefactor

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      I agree, but you could just use the sound generator part of the hearing aid to mask or try to mask!
      I would never amplify anything into my ears either. That's crazy!
       
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    16. Daniel Lion
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      Nobody had intratympanic stem cell treatments, they had stem cell treatments... Very different.
       
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    17. Daniel Lion
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      Thanks bro... Makes sense to me... That was my question and of course I am biased since I agree with your answer.
       
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    18. Daniel Lion
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      Was just being honest man... sorry if you found my words sophomoric or melodramatic... was not my intention.
       
    19. Ervin64

      Ervin64 Member

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      Antibiotic
      According to my 18 years experiance with them they do not.
      I don't have much confidence in allopathic doctors regarding hearing loss and tinnitus, since they are unable to find solution, but still I think they would not suggest hearing aids for poeple with hearing loss if they would further damage our hearing.
      I may not be aware of cases of people loosing their hearing due to hearing aid or research that suggest this, but if someone knows please point to it.
       
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    20. Daniel Lion
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      Daniel Lion Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Thank you kindly for your input... much appreciated.
       
    21. another sean
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      Cause of Tinnitus:
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      If doctors can suggest CT scans which cause cancer, then doctors can suggest hearing aids even though they can cause hearing damage. Many Doctors focus on the immediate solution and ignore the future reproductions of their treatments because by then, you will be out of their office, out of their hands and someone else's problem. Same with pharmaceuticals. Like Xanax, sure it will lower you anxiety, but, oh wait, death is a side effect. Well at least you won't be stressed out if you die from it but hey, the doctor did his job and lowered your anxiety at least.
       
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    22. Ervin64

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      Hi,
      In my case with very long period of using hearing aid there was no further damage to my hearing. That is why I am interested if somebody maybe know of any such cases or research.
       
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    23. just1morething
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      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      I’m pretty sure they all had stem cells injected through their eardrum as far as what I recall. In Asia as well as one in Europe. What good would stem cells do if not injected Intratympanically? I had IT injections of steroids at Paparella and Shea in the past.
       
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    24. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      We absolutely know to our cost that noise damage (volume) causes stereo cilia nerve death, and creates Tinnitus.

      Having Tinnitus, as we do, does anybody out there think it’s a great idea to increase the volume?

      Really ??
       
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      JohnAdams
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      Who are you even talking about?
       
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    26. Artemis2K
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      I had tinnitus for as long as I can remember. Got bad later.
      Exposure to noise above 80 dB has been proven to cause hearing loss. Depending on the volume, it doesn't matter even if it was brief exposure within a 24hr period. If you don't give your ears rest, and allow them to get out of the temporary threshold shift stage caused by loud noise, you are basically rebooting the temporary threshold shift time length and leading yourself into permanent hearing loss because of the loud noise exposure. Temporary threshold shifts can last days, weeks, and even a month or two in some cases. Hearing aids are not an exception to that rule.

      In addition, we found out that there is less such thing as temporary hearing loss than we thought because of the synaptic ribbons degrading over time. Partial regenerative can only go so far.

      It is a logical thing to say that hearing aids can cause hearing loss, because they are amplifying the sound, and too much exposure to loud noise will always cause hearing loss.
       
    27. just1morething
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    28. GregCA
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      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      Doctors suggest a CT scan when they assess that the risk of ionizing radiation is worth taking vs not having the imaging data and running a higher risk somewhere else.

      Any procedure carries a risk. If you're not comfortable with it, don't move forward with it, but it's the doctor's job to tell you what they would recommend. If you feel you know better than them, you can absolutely override them. They will not force you into a CT machine.

      That being said, imaging technology such as X-Rays, CT, MRI, etc... have done wonders to save people from really bad outcomes by giving doctors the ability to see what is going on "inside a person" without having to open them up.

      Anecdotal evidence: the CT scan of my temporal bone was a key element in my diagnosis of otosclerosis. My hearing (and most likely tinnitus) would undoubtedly be in a much worse shape if I hadn't gone through that imaging process (and found an experienced doctor capable of reading it correctly).

      Here's something you should know to rethink that logic: hearing aids do not amplify all sounds. If a sound is already loud it doesn't amplify it. They are configured to keep whatever power they emit under a certain threshold, specifically to avoid the dangerous condition you describe.

      What is true, however, is that certain amplifiers that are sold over the counter as "hearing aids" for very little money do not have this safety circuitry and can be dangerous. However, I am not aware of any audiologist (or any professional working in official health channels) offering devices that do not have this safety measure.
       
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    30. just1morething
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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      Dexamethasone at Paparella in the Twin Cities. Dr. there just used some numbing agent I believe and then a needle syringe (hurt like hell) Shea Ear Clinic in Memphis TN used a laser to make the holes (very little pain) Not exactly sure what they injected at Shea (probably dexamethasone, lidocaine etc.) but it was injected into left ear only at both places. I had a high pitched whine in my left ear.

      I would suppose Shea would be close to where you live but I don't think they do IT injections for tinnitus anymore. This was in July 2011.
       
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