Solsaem Clinic (Dr. Minbo Shim) Experience

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      There is something called the blood labyrinth barrier which separates the blood stream from the cochlear fluids endolymph and perilymph. To get the growth factors into the cochlea they need to enter the cochlea through the round window membrane which on the cochlea in the middle ear. Growth factors like Insulin Like Growth Factor-1 are secreted by alpha granules that come from blood platelets. This is why the injections need to be through the eardrum into the middle ear.
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      Sure. I've just asked.

      They've replied to my question about it curing hearing loss, apparently the success rate is only 20%.
       
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      the injections are done in the neck area and in the TMJ joint.

      We would not recommend the treatment in the case of hearing loss.

      Best regards,

      Jasmin"
       
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      I don't know if you've read the original thread about Dr. Shim or not, but, there's a good amount of skepticism about this. People are actually posting some very nasty things about this man based on their own debased logic.
      Plus, Neuromod doesn't purport to regenerate hair cells or restore hearing.

      I'm about to have a meeting with an ENT that my friend/coworker knows and talk about potentially getting something like this going in America.
       
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      Are you asking if Frequency Therapeutics can make PRP? I'm sure they can. It's not rocket science.

      "Principles and Methods of Preparation of Platelet-Rich Plasma: A Review and Author's Perspective"
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4338460/



      "A Cost-Effective Method for Obtaining Standard Platelet-Rich Plasma"
      https://www.woundsresearch.com/article/cost-effective-method-obtaining-standard-platelet-rich-plasma

      I'm not advocating that you do this to yourself. I only recommend licensed ENTs trained in giving intratympanic injections.
       
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      Will be interesting to see if Dr Shim attends the TRI conference, in May, since it’s in Taipei.

      I don’t recall anyone being very nasty in the other thread? Asking for scientific evidence is not being nasty. His reply to Amit, however, could be construed that way.
       
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      For what it’s worth I had PRP in the US to repair a torn knee. It’s not perfect but it is much better.
       
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      Can I just put PRP, stem cells and Frequency Therapeutics in one big ass syringe and inject it into my ear and call it a day?
       
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      Hi John, What makes the platelets degranulate and release the growth factors so they can diffuse across the membrane? Have there been any in-vitro studies to look at diffusion? Those lab methods certainly exist. Thanks, TC
       
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      https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2016/6591717/
       
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      I have limited understanding but I believe PRP recruits the growth factors already present in your body.
       
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      Did they verify that the injection holes closed before you left?
       
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      Yep. He showed me. He showed me my eardrums everyday, first thing.
       
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      Just curious- did he explain any risks associated with the treatment and get your consent to proceed?

      I was wondering if scarring and stiffening of the tympanic membrane could result from all the injections.

      Also, thanks for the link to the degranulation article!
       
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      Yes he explained the risks, which were minimal, and I signed consent forms.

      And I think PRP reduces scarring and heals up the eardrum just fine.
       
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      If he had botched the procedure would you have had any recourse?

      In the US we can make a complaint to the Medical Board and have it go thru peer review or if there is obvious neglect and damage a law suit for malpractice could be considered.

      What happens when people travel for treatment?
       
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      There is at least a $100 billion reward for a researcher that finds a good treatment or cure!
       
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      I don't know. Thankfully he is a good doctor and I didn't have to consider that.
       
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      @JohnAdams Hey John, how are you feeling??? Are you back home now? Crossing fingers for you! :)
       
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      Yeah I'm home. I feel fine. Thanks.
       
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      I don't think so.

      "Orthokine differs from a similar procedure with platelet-rich plasma (PRP),[6] where platelets are targeted instead of the interleukin antagonist. Also, PRP does not require the blood to be heated as Orthokine does"
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autologous_conditioned_serum

      I had dozens of injections of PRP right into the ear drums.
       
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      People need to give up on this guy already. I'm hoping for a cure as much as the next sufferer, but this Dr Minbo Scam isn't going to deliver it.
       
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      John you still haven't gotten back with me, did this also resolve your hyperacusis/noise pain?
       
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      Someone went all the way to South Korea and had a really unpleasant experience just so he could have a normal life again. He spent thousands of dollars going there, and reported good results. He has more basis to say it's legitimate. Not only has he provided an abundant amount of scientific examples of how it works, but he went there himself.

      I understand some of the skepticism, but being so quick to jump without analyzing is not productive.

      This has given me hope. Apparently it has for plenty of people. Before this, I had really dark thoughts. I want to see this discussion through. So, please be nice. I have had a lot of Hell with tinnitus and hearing loss. I don't want to give up now.
       
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      He told me he thought it did the other day.
       
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      Why would John make this up? There are a few members on here who I do believe would fabricate such a story, but he is not one of them.
       
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      I know I’m new here, but I think the likelihood of John being a shill is unlikely.

      The practitioner of this therapy being a bit obtuse is definitely the case
       
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      Of course John is legit, no scammer would ever have so many images of Stimpy. I guarantee it.
       
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      Lol. Well, only John can speak to the quality of the results. But I think it would be an elaborate long game of two years on Dr. Shim - More like DR. SHAM! - to potentially get one more customer.
       
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