SoundCure Serenade Tinnitus Treatment System

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by Tha_b_man, Mar 28, 2012.

    1. InfiniteLoop
      Relaxed

      InfiniteLoop Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Redwood City, California
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/21/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Very high frequency hearing loss in left ear.
      @DebInAustralia

      The s-tones are part of the SoundCure Serenade device. There is a long thread in the treatments section. @Steve just posted some MP3 samples. There are similar sounds in MyNoise.net also. Basically, s-tones are amplitude modulated sounds and they supposed to have stronger effect in the cortex than just noise or rain sounds.
       
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    2. Ecip

      Ecip Member

      Location:
      Edmonton, AB/Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      4.11.2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
      Hmm... interesting.
       
    3. DebInAustralia
      Fine

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      30/12/13
      Thankyou both for your replies. Really appreciate it. Not considering seranade but was curious re s tones and how they compare to other sound therapies.
       
    4. JSalvatore
      Studious

      JSalvatore Member

      Location:
      Argentina
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2014
      Tried the 8500Hz S-tone that Steve created, it's just unpleasant to hear, tried for about 2 mins and could not continue haha. Thanks @Steve , my left ear T is around 8300-8500 so maybe tomorrow I will try to use it at least 10 min and see if I get any improvements.
       
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    5. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Quick note. You should listen to the tone at a level just below your tinnitus, so you can still hear the tinnitus. After a maximum 2 minutes the idea is that it should suppress the tinnitus.

      People who have used the Serenade device may have some other pointers here or some guidance on how the tones fit into the treatment strategy.
       
    6. MikeP505
      Curious

      MikeP505 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Ontario Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Punishment for being so darn good looking!
      How is your tinnitus these days Steve? Your doing well I hope!

      Regards, Mike
       
    7. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Hi Mike.

      It's loud and annoying but I'm pretty much habituated. Spikes here and there, bit of a one recently. Can't let it get to you though, the worst thing you can do is stop and listen, realise how loud it actually is and let it rule you.
       
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    8. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
    9. Emmi
      Not amused

      Emmi Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      November 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Exposure
      @Steve
      Does it not matter at which frequency your T is for these 40 Hz tones and how long would you suggest listening to it?
       
    10. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Hi Emmi,

      For this particular technique it doesn't need to match a tinnitus tone, it's quite general. If you feel that it has suppressed your tinnitus after the 5 minutes (less really) then it works on you.

      It's an experiment with sound so there isn't a listening regime. I guess that you can take a cue from ACRN and listen for no longer than an hour at a time and no more than 4-6 hours a day as a guide. If it helps you it helps, it's all good.

      I'd love to do some tests on these sorts of sounds and see if they actually do reduce tinnitus, who knows, we may be able to do that one day with researchers.

      I can send you the sound file if you want it.
       
    11. JSalvatore
      Studious

      JSalvatore Member

      Location:
      Argentina
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2014
      @Steve Unfortunately that last one doesn't do the trick on me. The one that works is this one that I know you made
      tinnitus relief - it works
      (It has a couple views, you should clame it haha)
       
    12. DebInAustralia
      Fine

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      30/12/13

      Hey Steve,

      Im being daft. I cant find your s tones files. Do you have one to match 6000khz please?
       
    13. ruben ruiz

      ruben ruiz Member

      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      I believe it was meds and stress
      Talk about spikes am I the only one that has a spike come every night? My T goes through the roof come nightime. I would call it a spike!
       
    14. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Mine generally gets worse as the day goes on, not always but the majority of the time. According to our survey we have that in common with 19% of people with tinnitus.

      @DebInAustralia Here you go, attached is a 6,000Hz file
       

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    15. DebInAustralia
      Fine

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      30/12/13
      Thanks Steve

      I just listened to the file.

      It changed the hiss to a metallic sound.

      Can that happen?
       
    16. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      I guess so. The idea is that when you listen to it - just below your tinnitus volume - if it works you should get a suppression of the tinnitus after a couple of minutes.
       
    17. DebInAustralia
      Fine

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      30/12/13
      Didnt suppress but changed the quality of my t. Kinda alarmed me. Dont think ill do that again..but ty all the same
       
    18. DebInAustralia
      Fine

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      30/12/13
      A question..

      I have a few layers of noises..

      The hissing which sometimes pulsates can be suppressed with white noise ..

      Almost leaves me with a central tone that i can also modulate with pure tones ..

      But it comes back of course ..

      Is this common? What bout if i played white noise and pure tones? Has anyone done this?
       
    19. CDNThailand

      CDNThailand Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/17/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      MP3, Stress, TMJ
      I get a spike EVERYDAY like clock work, from 10:30 pm to 8pm

      Then ALL night

      Only low form 6 am to 10:30 am :(
       
    20. jacob21
      Amazed

      jacob21 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008 > 2009 "cured" >2nd onset June 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induce ( loud music )
      @Steve

      Hi Steve

      I would really appreciate if you can make me a sound SERENADE at 9000 Hz . I am using Serenade and unfortunately it is broken . Until I ll get the replacement device it will take weeks

      Thanks a lot by advance
      Jacob
       
    21. rpalmquist

      rpalmquist Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/01/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Concert
      I just listened to it for 5 minutes. It seems to work quite well for me while I'm listening to but the T came back when I stopped.
       
    22. Paul10

      Paul10 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress
      I'm just doing what we're all not supposed to be doing and Googling around for T. Came across this;

      http://www.soundcure.com/

      I know it's unlikely someone who was actually treated with this is still going to be on the forums, but has anyone heard of it? What interests me is that they are recognised by the British Tinnitus Association and their Facebook etc. has quiet a lot of information regarding roadshows and participation in national awareness events.
       
    23. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      Do you mean the BTA logo on the footer of SoundCure's website?

      That's just corporate membership, basically it means that a company has donated money to BTA (by buying the Corporate Membership). In exchange, BTA allows the company to use that Corporate Member badge.

      It doesn't convey that BTA recommends a certain company, or treatment.
       
    24. Paul10

      Paul10 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress
      Yup. They do seem to have a good presence at T events and whatnot. They at least don't come off as the usual snake-oil.
       
    25. fred galespi
      Depressed

      fred galespi Member

      Location:
      maine, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      jan 20, 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud music...tools...tractors...firearms
      Would anyone know if SoundCure is still in business?

      It has been quite a while since I talked with anyone there, but as I recall they were working on a new product that could be used with a smartphone.

      I have tried to Google it, but all the sites say is be back soon.
       
    26. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      I've heard that SoundCure no longer operates (unverified, don't have official source to quote).

      They have removed their Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and YouTube pages too.
       
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    27. fred galespi
      Depressed

      fred galespi Member

      Location:
      maine, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      jan 20, 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud music...tools...tractors...firearms
      Thank you!
       
    28. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      It looks like the website is gone too...
       
    29. InfiniteLoop
      Relaxed

      InfiniteLoop Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Redwood City, California
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/21/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Very high frequency hearing loss in left ear.
      Another tinnitus business casualty.... nothing works as we all know. It seems that time is up for these companies trying to sell MP3 players with customized sounds for many thousands of dollars. Is Otoharmonics (Levo system) next?
       
    30. dwgray

      dwgray Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      machinery
      I recently had my luggage stolen and it had my SoundCure in the bag.

      Does anyone have a SoundCure Machine that they would like to sell?

      It worked for me, but I understand it does not work for everyone.

      If you purchased one and it did not work for you, let me know if you would be interested in selling one to me. Thanks.
       

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