Texas Roadhouse CEO Kent Taylor Took His Life After Battling Severe Tinnitus Caused by COVID-19

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    1. BuzzyBee
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      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
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      Not Sure
      They're idiots. I'm sorry that happened to you on Facebook.

      It's been a hard day and I can't stop thinking about this. I can totally see how tinnitus would drive one to suicide, but he really hadn't had it for that long. Maybe COVID-19 changed something in his brain? Why do some of us fight it and others just give in? Was it just easy access to a gun? Did he have any sort of support system? Why?
       
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    2. HootOwl

      HootOwl Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Advocate

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      2009
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      Explanation in About You
      Wow... this just breaks my heart... I don’t really know what to say. I wish he could have held out for a bit longer for some of the drugs that are hitting market in the next few years, but severe tinnitus just beats you down so hard I know why he thought there was no other way out.
       
    3. Lucifer

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      If he had known about Frequency Therapeutics, he may have waited. It’s a shame that if he had consulted with ENT specialists that keep up to date with research such as Frequency Therapeutics and Otonomy he may be still alive today.
       
    4. TheDanishGirl
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      TheDanishGirl Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2017 (H since 06/2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      I have pain hyperacusis and nothing is certain to help that. Lenire is out of the question for me, because I have this kind of hyperacusis. Headphones are no-go. 95-98% of sound gives me pain at this point.
       
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    5. DaveFromChicago

      DaveFromChicago Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Headcold/Flu
      To BuzzyBee:

      Given your range of questions, very astute consideration of the unknowable, amazing variety of responses different people have to similar phenomena (which even contemporary Psychiatry has no explanation for.)

      "Why do some of us fight it and others just give in?"

      As I have posted before, this reminds me of a story told by a man of the WWII generation who was in the Army. He said there were guys who were super macho, fearless in combat, and resembled Burt Lancaster in "From Here to Eternity." But when it came time to line up for inoculations, they passed out at the sight of a needle.

      Throughout my life I have noticed that various traumas (such as being told that a relationship is over, getting divorced or fired, being diagnosed with cancer etc.) affect certain people not at all and utterly, permanently devastate others.

      This only indicates how unique each of us is in our responses to the the endlessly myriad experiences inherent in the Human Condition.

      Given the cumulatively destructive, intrusive nature of this condition, none of us has the right to be judgmental about such a decision as was taken.
       
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    6. Jack Straw
      Balanced

      Jack Straw Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      1990s
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Infection, Acoustic Trauma
      Really sad. I feel terrible for his family.

      I wonder if he already had tinnitus and COVID-19 exacerbated it or if it was straight to severe tinnitus. I guess it doesn't matter ultimately and is still tragic.
       
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    7. Lane

      Lane Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Single 25 mg. Dose of (Anticholinergic) Drug Promethazine
      Can covid make your ears ring? What we know about its possible connection to tinnitus.

      From the article--which touches on Kent Taylor committing suicide (the last paragraph is a bit infuriating):

      The condition is “one of those things that is just so variable in every single person,” said Eldré Beukes, an audiologist and research fellow at Anglia Ruskin University in the United Kingdom, who has published research on how individuals with tinnitus have been affected by the pandemic.

      In the United States, more than 50 million people experience some form of tinnitus, which is often linked to hearing loss. About 20 million struggle with a chronic condition, while 2 million have extreme and debilitating cases, according to the American Tinnitus Association.

      “There are at least 200 reasons” why people may develop tinnitus or feel like their existing condition is worsening, Beukes said, including factors related to hearing damage as well as stress and mental health conditions. “Some people do just get tinnitus that’s seemingly out of the blue.”

      Beukes and other experts say it’s critical for people with tinnitus to understand the condition and be aware that there are a variety of evidence-based treatments that can provide relief. People should “not accept that their quality of life has to go down because they have tinnitus,” Beukes said. “There is hope and there are things that they can do to live the life they want to live.”​
       
    8. dan
      Chatty

      dan Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Audiologists ought to be burned at the stake for spreading tinnitus misinformation.
       
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    9. dan
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      dan Member Hall of Fame

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      Toronto, Canada
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      06/2011
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      Loud noise
      Man you guys talk like there is a current tinnitus drug that passed a Phase 3 trial with flying colors...

      At most right now we have is what a questionable Frequency Therapeutics FX-322 failed trial with tinnitus only as on off label - at the remote chance it passes to market.
       
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    10. HootOwl

      HootOwl Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Advocate

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      2009
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      Explanation in About You
      Eh? I’m confused about this, not sure why I gave you this impression. I was only speaking from my own experience that waiting for a HL drug to hit market (in any form) is what helps keep me going. This shit is unfathomably hard to deal with.

      As for FX-322 I posted this before their Phase 2a readout when the data showed they were likely aiming for a 2023/2024 release.

      If you read my posts you’d see that I’ve always been conservative on what specific form of tinnitus FX-322 would treat, and that even if the drug worked for someone like me, it would likely only help one tone of my very severe multi-tone t.

      And even that was more of a “I really hope so” kind of thing, because diagnostics being as crude as they are means I was hoping that the drug which treats OHC/IHC - and was projected to hit market first - meant that my structural damage was OHC/IHC and not isolated synaptopathy.

      But for someone with a single HF “eeeee” above 10 kHz the likelihood of success with FX-322 is probably higher. But I don’t know what frequency this man had t at. It could be his was a very loud, low dial tone (such as myself), in which case the first form of the drug would have done very little, if nothing at all.

      I won’t go too much into the science and weeds here on this thread, because that’s not what this is about. If you want to discuss the nitty gritty of the Phase 2a results, I think we should do that in the appropriate thread.

      But I hope that clarifies where my head was at when I posted that.
       
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    11. HootOwl

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      2009
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      Explanation in About You
      This is darkly hilarious to me because it’s like they never stop and think “hm, maybe it’s so variable, because I don’t know, maybe some have very loud and unmaskable tinnitus. And those people suffer more than the “oh I turn on a fan and I’m fine” people. What a strange hypothesis right?”

      As someone who went from mild, to moderate, to finally severe, the difference is quite literally the difference between a relatively normal life and wanting to die every single day.
       
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    12. Gbelle54

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      Boston, MA
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      April, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Labrynthitis
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    13. Luman
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      Brooklyn
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      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Intermittent Tinnitus probably noise induced
      We do not have a cure. There are therapies, such as CBT, that can help some people, even if they are suicidal, in the meantime while waiting for a cure.
       
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    14. just1morething
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      I don’t think it pays because it bombed. Kind of a wasted effort IMO. You can’t revive a dead horse. Maybe something will change for the better in the future though. The stock price will reflect any improvements made to the formula, delivery, etc.
       
    15. Ken219
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      Ken219 Member

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      New York Area
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      Summer of 1990
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure?
      Dan, why do you say bad things about audiologists?

      I have been surviving and living with tinnitus for 30 years. Yes I've had setbacks and suicidal thoughts, but always habituated. It is a long journey (12-18 months) but I do habituate and live a better life. I pray every day for new treatments or a cure.

      Dan, the worst doctors are the ones that say learn to live with it or worse, not warn you about exposure to loud noise. In 1989 there was no internet. I had a slight ringing, I went to an ENT, he examined me and said all looks good. Never giving me warnings about ototoxic medications, or how exposure to loud noise could make it worse. In 1989 was before 'internet'. I assumed it is an aging process. Next year, with full blown tinnitus, I went to the Library. There where three books about ringing in the ears (tinnitus). There it was in black and white, 'exposure to loud noise'! I wrote the doctor that exposure to loud noise is the most common cause of tinnitus and he should explain all reasons and give the patient a set of earplugs. These doctors are bad. He had no empathy. He is known as the skirt chaser at LIJ hospital.
       
    16. Ken219
      Frustrated

      Ken219 Member

      Location:
      New York Area
      Tinnitus Since:
      Summer of 1990
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure?
      Don't go by the 'stock' price unless you are an investor. I've seen companies cook the books making it appear the company is thriving. Many companies have done this!
       
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    17. Johan001

      Johan001 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Medication
      I've read that he got COVID-19 in November and that's when the ringing started.

      Basically it took him 4 months to get to the point of doing the unthinkable.

      I got tinnitus in late May and my last suicide attempt was in the beginning of October, similar timeline. Now I'm not suicidal anymore despite daily suffering.

      I really think he should have waited a bit to get over the acute stage. Most suicide cases known from the press (such as Robert McIndoe, Glenn Mitchell, Daniel Derricutt) were in the acute stage (up to 6 months).

      This kind of confirms: don't pull the plug in the early months of tinnitus, no matter how hard it may be. Speaking from my personal experience.
       
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    18. ajc

      ajc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      The WSJ Obituary also said that he had had only 2 hours of sleep per night for many weeks.

      He should have been tranquilized, hard. But hindsight 20/20.

      RIP.
       
    19. Johan001

      Johan001 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Medication
      Yeah, I've had this as well with sleep. 2 hours of superficial sleep with constant adrenaline shocks and panic attacks. From the beginning of June to October/November. Nothing worked for me though: Benzos, Mirtazapine, Quetiapine, Zopiclone, Melatonin.

      I really emphasize with him, totally understand the situation.
       
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