Tinnitus Masking: MP3s, CDs, YouTube, Other Audio

#31
I would like to leave it here :)

http://mynoise.net/noiseMachines.php

It's a collection of relaxing natural sounds like ocean waves, rain and some artificial ones like humming fan. What makes this website cool and different is the "equalizer" - a bunch of colourful sliders that you can adjust as you see fit.

Each colour corresponds to different frequencies so if the sound you are listening to is too sharp and hissing for example, you can always adjust it as needed :headphone:

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Using the website is completely free.

Downloading an mp3 file costs few dollars but it's possible to just record the sound for free. I am going to hell...

edit: please remember not to play the sounds at high volume! Especially when using headphones :)
 
#32
Hello

I try to stay possitive as much as I can, but I am quite sad and have troubles to cope with Tinnitus. I can hear it at all times and makes me sad.

Slight ringing at work, even though there are fans, and I can listen to it at home when silent.

My T is very recent though, just one month and I would like to try several stuff like acupuncture, HBTO, TRT and last resort to a tinnitus masker.

Does anyone use a tinnitus masker device? How is it it working for you?

Best
 
#33
Morning guys :)
Just wondering if anyone had any recommendations/ideas for a sound machine for my dad... I'd like to get him one for Xmas

He has severe T and moderate hearing loss so it will need to have some pretty high volumes, and I'd like it to be portable so he can use it out in the shed

Thanks!
 
#34
Amelia said:
Morning guys :)
Just wondering if anyone had any recommendations/ideas for a sound machine for my dad... I'd like to get him one for Xmas

He has severe T and moderate hearing loss so it will need to have some pretty high volumes, and I'd like it to be portable so he can use it out in the shed

Thanks!
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These Oasis machines are pretty well known and I've heard good things: Sleep Sound Machines For Better & Natural Sleep
 
#35
In order to try and get some relief from my T (especially at night), I've been listening to sounds via a white noise app on my phone. (The app is just called White Noise.) I've found a few noises that are soothing but they never seem to cover, or even distract me from, how loud my T is, especially at night. About how loud should masking noises be? I don't know how high mine is in terms of decibels but I never listen to the app with the volume turned up more than a quarter of the way on my iPhone.
 
#36
Amy said:
In order to try and get some relief from my T (especially at night), I've been listening to sounds via a white noise app on my phone. (The app is just called White Noise.) I've found a few noises that are soothing but they never seem to cover, or even distract me from, how loud my T is, especially at night. About how loud should masking noises be? I don't know how high mine is in terms of decibels but I never listen to the app with the volume turned up more than a quarter of the way on my iPhone.
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Hi, they should be at a level the same as your tinnitus, so you can just about still hear it. That way they are supposed to help you habituate.

Of course you should always be careful not to have them too loud, especially when you're using earphones, to avoid hearing damage. If somebody has to raise their voice to be heard, that's a very basic guide to it being loud enough to start causing hearing damage. But it all depends on how loud and how long you're listening to it too.
 
#37
@Steve Thanks for the response! I'm not listening to them through headphones, so this helps. I've had them right about at that level and keep them on throughout the night to help me sleep (mostly unsuccessfully)...it's just taking forever to habituate. Sigh.
 
#41
I just found this on YouTube, and it does a pretty good job (though doesn't eliminate the highest pitch) of masking my T and is also pleasant to have running in the background.

 
#42
There are a lot of vids on youtube, but how good are they?

They try to sell it here:

http://www.hyperacusis.net/what-to-do/pink-noise-products/

They have various prices...I find it appalling that they try to profit from people's misery...this should be offered for free download, but they try to push hardware with it...

Anything free and open source out there? Sound resources that WON'T make it worse?

I've head stories of some tracks that suddenly get louder ect...
 
#45
dakotafred said:
I found a good white noise generator app for my phone. It's called "White Noise Free" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmsoft.whitenoise.lite&hl=en
It has a lot of different sounds, I like the "air conditioner" one.
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I read this thread and was surprised that this app. This is TMSoft's "White Noise" app (http://www.tmsoft.com/) which actually has a lot of different ambient sounds (some nature, and some more artificial things like a fan running or vacuum, not just white noise). There's a free version, and a paid version that has some more capabilities. You can mix sounds together, adjust the volume and balance of each one, and add or record your own sounds. It's available for Android, iOS, and Windows, and Mac. It might take a bit more setup than a standalone white noise player but I think it is a bit more flexible in what you can do with it than most standalone generators. You can connect your phone/laptop to a set of high-quality speakers, a sound pillow with audio input, one of those sound headbands, or earbuds (if your tinnitus is not due to ear damage... use with caution).

I recently developed high-pitched tinnitus (15,000Hz+) and after going totally crazy for a couple of weeks, this thing has been a life saver. I'm using crickets+heavy rain+brown noise. Even with a very low volume, the tinnitus is effectively masked.
 
#46
I've been curious about this sound machine from Mike Petroff since hearing of the CD version in older forum posts, and the website(https://audiobionics.com/products/) seems up to date with product info and such. However, it doesn't seem to be available for purchase anywhere.

I was just wondering if anyone had tried contacting them about it, or if they've gotten it from somewhere, and how it worked out for them?
 
#47
illegalmonkey77 said:
I was just wondering if anyone had tried contacting them about it, or if they've gotten it from somewhere, and how it worked out for them?
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I was very interested in this thing during my early weeks. I contacted him and got a reply, stating that they were launching a new version which is why it was not available for purchase, and that it should be available for sale within two or three weeks. This was in August, I believe. I followed up several weeks later and never heard back.

I kept an eye on the site and he has been adding stuff and tidying it up over the past few months. But, the product is still not available for sale.

It's not a ghost product... Another member here gave an older version of the device high marks. I'm not sure why it is taking so long to get the new one to market.

If you become an ATA member, they have a sound library with some masking sounds that you can download. Three of them are DTM sounds (DTM is the old name for Mike Petroff's system). They are only one minute long but I found the "ENature" one to be very good for masking, I created a long seamless loop of it to use for myself for background noise.

I haven't used masking in some time now but I am still keeping an eye on this device, I would probably like to purchase one to have on hand in the event that my tinnitus ever takes a serious downturn.
 
#48
I've downloaded a lot of mp3 sounds for masking, but none of them can come close to how well being in the shower totally masks my T and i realize that if i can duplicate whatever dimensional sounds are being generated in the stall, then i may be able to finally get some sleep, so i've been researching microphones and am close to getting this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-P...8&qid=1515708587&sr=8-3&keywords=Sony+PCM-M10
however someone mentioned that mp3s don't handle full sound ranges or something like that and so maybe a CD has the ability to record whatever dimensional sounds are being generated in the shower stall? For example, the water splashes are being bounced around in the stall area in all directions, so i would need a device that could capture all of those dimensional sounds right? I noticed there are a lot of musicians posting on this forum, so maybe they would have a good idea on how to capture these actual shower stall sounds more effectively? And i have literally convinced myself that if i can duplicate these shower sounds, then i might have a fighting chance as i've literally had to take the last 2 weeks off from work for lack of sleep, so if you have any ideas on how to capture these shower sounds i would greatly appreciate any suggestions!
 
#49
BobK544 said:
however someone mentioned that mp3s don't handle full sounds ranges or something like that and so maybe a CD has the ability to record whatever dimensional sounds are being generated in the shower stall?
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From the amazon page: "Supports up to 24-bit/96kHz WAV audio"
You should be fine. It's the lossy aspect of the mp3 compression that is an issue. You can use any lossless codec without any loss of high frequencies.
Give it a shot!
 
#50
So GregCA, what you're saying is that microphone looks like it might handle the necessary sound ranges and after capturing the shower sounds, i should then save the file using the lossless codec? And i've never heard of a lossless codec, but i do have windows 10, so would i then follow these instructions? thanks GregCA

Can Lagarith lossless codec work with Windows 10?

Hi guys,

I have an AVI video file I need to work with. It was exported a while back using Lagarith lossless codec. Anyone know how I might be able to use that video file on Windows 10?
If not, does anyone know which is the latest version of Windows that supports the codec?
Thanks

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Correct Answerby Jeff Bellune on Feb 2, 2017 8:33 PM
  1. Open the file you want to convert in VirtualDub.
  2. Select Video>Fast Recompress.
  3. Select Video>Compression.
  4. Scroll through the list of codecs and choose Lagarith.
  5. The default configuration should be fine. Click OK.
  6. Go to File>Save as AVI...
  7. Navigate to the folder where you want to save the file and type a name for the file. The .avi extension will be added automatically by VirtualDub.
  8. Click Save and watch VirtualDub do its thing. Done.
Hopefully the new file will import into Pr without any problems.
 
#51
BobK544 said:
So GregCA, what you're saying is that microphone looks like it might handle the necessary sound ranges and after capturing the shower sounds, i should then save the file using the lossless codec? And i've never heard of a lossless codec, but i do have windows 10, so would i then follow these instructions? thanks GregCA
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Just use WAV audio. It's the simplest. It's not compressed. It'll give you the quality you want. It's supported by pretty much every platform on the planet.
Once you have that working you can start thinking about (lossless) compression.
 
#53
BobK544 said:
Ok i think i get it now Greg, many thanks again!
After recording on the H1 in WAV format, i will then download that WAV recording to my PC and the use Audacity and Lame to convert the WAV to MP3 per the following instructions:
https://www.lifewire.com/audacity-tutorial-how-to-convert-wav-to-mp3-using-lame-2438749
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Yes you got it.
Remember you do not need to convert WAV to MP3 if your player can play WAV files (most do!). Nothing wrong with experimenting with it though: you may find that a resulting MP3 works well for you.
Good luck!
 
#54
I don't know about you guys but this one is the only hope for me, I mean I am not depressed or anything because of my loud high pitch tinnitus, it's just this sound masking owns them all. Please try everyone...

 
#55
And I tried hundreds.
Can't say it cured me. I attribute that to luck, diet, supplementation, quitting bad habits, etc. but this really worked for me.
 
#56
Hello, my tinnitus is manifested in the form of crickets (I hear crickets in my right hear). The following masking sound found in YouTube is working for me, it gives me relief and does not have annoying noises:



However, a little whistle remains in my hear after hearing this audio. Do you have links for some masking sound that have worked for you? Although this one gives me relief, I want to test others to check if no whistle remains after hearing it.
 
#57
This track of crickets is the best thing I've found for masking. It's fantastic for my main tinnitus though it doesn't do so well with the extremely high frequency that pops up in my left ear at times.

Anyway, put it on a single loop. In Spotify go to your settings > playback and set the crossfade all the way to 12 second and it'll play through the night in a perfect loop. A life saver.

 
#59
Bill Bauer said:
Looks like using white noise to mask tinnitus is not a good idea, after all:
https://www.hearingassociatesmc.com...ences-of-White-Noise-Therapy-for-Tinnitus.pdf
This paper also provides an overview of the coming treatments for tinnitus (e.g., Neuromod's device).
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I'm mixed on this. While it's good that this study is pointing out that there needs to be a need for more varied treatments - besides TRT and CBT. TRT has been beneficial for some tinnitus and hyperacusis patients out there.

I remember reading one article last year that talked about this study, and stated at the end that this research still isn't strong enough to state that "white noise" therapies are overall detrimental. BUT it should be kept open as a possible hypothesis and researched further. In the mean time, lets continue developing more treatments that can help people with different types of tinnitus and hyperacusis.
 

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