Acoustic CR® Neuromodulation: Do It Yourself Guide

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by jibs, Apr 24, 2013.

    1. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Hi @JodieStephens

      I have never used Neuromodulation tones. It has been around for a while and needs to be administered/setup through a specialist clinic. The treatment is expensive which will not come as a surprise. Some people have tried a DIY method. Youtube has plenty of sounds but as I said never tried it.

      I have been using a TIEX tinnitus therapy device for a number of years. It is expensive but works for me but doesn't help everyone.
      All the best
      Michael
       
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    2. GregCA
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      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      I doubt it, but it's worth asking.
       
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    3. JodieStephens

      JodieStephens Member

      Location:
      Nova Scotia , canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Could ACRN make tinnitus worse sometimes?
       
    4. EatMoTacos
      No Mood

      EatMoTacos Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud Music and being dumb
      Don't think so, I've been playing mine ARCN through my laptop speakers on super low volume and basically for me it just masks the noise (I probably need to recheck my T Tone again). I don't use headphones at all anymore.
       
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    5. TheDanishGirl
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      TheDanishGirl Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2017 (H since 06/2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Well sad to tell that it does not work on me anymore :( I don't know what has happened, maybe my brain figured it out or something?? Yesterday I could clearly tell that it lowered it because I have this clear ringing tone in my right ear and when I played the track it began fluctuating and then lowered. Now it does not work.

      Oh well, maybe it will only work sometimes....I will keep the track in my favorites and try it every now and then.
       
    6. Reinier
      Not amused

      Reinier Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Explosion starting engine
      I am starting to conclude this. (In my case). But always temporarily in my experience. So it will return to "baseline"again.

      What I do know for certain (after more than one year of using ACRN), it does not work for my tinnitus.
       
    7. JodieStephens

      JodieStephens Member

      Location:
      Nova Scotia , canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      awww ok
       
    8. Andy Lee

      Andy Lee Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08 Aug 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Does anyone have this treatment for 6000 - 7000 Hertz? Any help would be appreciated.
       
    9. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      Here it is for 6 kHz, and here it is for 7 kHz. To be efficient, you are supposed to target it to your own T frequency though. For example, if your T was at 6.5 kHz, these would not be the right therapy to listen to, according to the protocols specified in scientific literature.
       
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    10. Andy Lee

      Andy Lee Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08 Aug 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      What would I have to listen to if I cant hear from 6000 from 8000?
       
    11. GregCA
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      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      Neuromodulation isn't about filling out what you can't hear. It's about dealing with T. It works if your T is tonal (or heavily concentrated in one location of the spectrum).
      For example, you could have hearing loss from 6 kHz to 8 kHz, but have a 4 kHz tone T. Often the T is where the hearing loss is, so in your case it is possible that it is in the 6-8 kHz range, but it could be 6.1 kHz or 7.9 kHz. The only way to know is to do a pitch match. You can do that online for free. Here you can find the tools to figure out the pitch/frequency of your T.
      Once you have that, you can start listening to sound therapy specifically built for that frequency.
       
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    12. afezus

      afezus Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/02/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      house alarm / unknown
      Hi all,

      I'm unable to exactly find my tinnitus frequency. Any help please?
       
    13. Jan Koopmans

      Jan Koopmans Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04-09-2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss left ear
      Question?
      About tonal T. ACRN does not increase the volume of my T. What it does. Using ACRN my T. has dropped in 2 years from 8400 Hz to 2200 Hz at the moment. I find a low pitch sound much more bearable than the original high pitch sound.
      Question? Is it possible by using ACRN for a longer time that the T drops till zero = no sound = no T. Has anyone experienced this?
       
    14. dazraf

      dazraf Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud music
      Hello. Thanks for the info. The video quoted doesn’t seem to work.
       
    15. RPM
      Scared

      RPM Member Benefactor

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      New York
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      As long as I can remember.
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Years of drumming.
    16. Deanmcg

      Deanmcg Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      Hi guys new to this form. Had Tinnitus for over 15 years :( its a killer likes and the past year has been the worst its ever been. I have been doing a lot of research and trying different things. Came across ACRN.

      Its like 5 grand, a lot of money. But I have seen a lot of the youtube video of stuff exactly like it. Been using this one http://generalfuzz.net/acrn/ and a couple of youtube videos.

      I find it hard to pin point the frequency of my tinnitus - its around 8000 to 10000. Anyone got any tips to nail it?

      I actually have two frequencies in the right ear which is a killer. So its hard to pin point it.

      Anyways I was wondering if I could use the ACRN type sound and then put some nice wave or ocean sounds over it? Or will this defeat the purpose of it?
       
    17. Deanmcg

      Deanmcg Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      Whats peoples opinions on listening to ACRN? Speakers or headphones?

      Does it really matter?
       
    18. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      Yes. Headphones are technically better, but if you don't want to risk it, speakers are a good alternative.
       
    19. Deanmcg

      Deanmcg Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      Cool! Thanks. I have been doing both really. Don't want to over do the headphones.
       
    20. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      Yeah no problem. Good luck on your quest for reduction.

      Are you new to ACRN? I haven't tried it yet because I don't know if it will work for me. Here are some good info videos to check out.

      Does it work?:
      Is CR Neuromodulation Effective for Tinnitus?


      How does it work?:
      Acoustic CR Neuromodulation Tinnitus Treatment
       
    21. Deanmcg

      Deanmcg Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      Thanks man. Fairly new! Been hard to pin point my frequency. I actually have to frequencies!

      What about yourself? Not thought about trying it?
       
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    22. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      I have TMD, so my tinnitus will most likely not be helped by it. I'm focusing on getting tinnitus reduction from TMD first, and if I'm not satisfied, then I'll give it a shot. Good luck reducing your tinnitus. If you achieve it, be sure to give a good post explaining what you did and what worked.
       
    23. Deanmcg

      Deanmcg Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      whats TMD? Yeah will do!
       
    24. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      Temporomandibular Joint Disorder. Basically my jaw is putting muscular stress near my ear, making my tinnitus louder. I know this because I was diagnosed with TMD and I can reduce my tinnitus by massaging my jaw.
       
    25. Deanmcg

      Deanmcg Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      Ahh man that sucks! I actually found today if i put any movements or pressure on my jaw the tinnitus gets worse! Never new that. I think its neck problem for me.
       
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    26. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      That's great! Even if your tinnitus doesn't improve with that, chances are if the new Susan Shore device is tested and passed as a functional device around this October, then that means you have a good chance of reducing your tinnitus.
       
    27. Deanmcg

      Deanmcg Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      Man Im so behind everything. What is this Susan Shore device? sorry for being such a novice!
       
    28. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      That's fine. It's a device that works like ACRN, but it's much more successful, but only for somasensory sufferers (people who can modulate their tinnitus with their jaw and neck). It shows pretty good promise and may be released as early as september this year, or maybe later like in 2020, but this is assuming the next trial is successful.

      Further reading:
      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...igan-tinnitus-discovery-—-signal-timing.2805/
       
    29. Deanmcg

      Deanmcg Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      Its so frustrating the length you have to wait for all this stuff. Of course they have to test it a lot, but sometimes it can take like 5 years!
       
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    30. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      Sure but most of the testing is done. Just one more trial, and if everything doesn't go to crap, the most likely release date is in 2020. Be sure to read the signal timing thread I sent you if you're interested, especially the posts made in 2018.
       
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