Liam Boehm — A Scammer or What?

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by Ento, Aug 15, 2018.

    1. azume

      azume Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown...But have an idea!
      No neck, jaw problems or head trauma... I had my hearing checked and they said I have good hearing, in fact it is the exact same as tested in 2006... This happened a few days after I contracted the flu and had an MRI... It's been constant for 7 weeks...

      Before the loud tinnitus I did notice a very subtle high pitch noise for sometime, I noticed that when I meditated but it never bothered me.

      I don't drink alcohol or take any meds, just vitamins.... My caffeine intake is small...

      My mother did have hearing loss and tinnitus, I always thought that was because of my father constantly yelling at her for so many years. My hearing is very good but difficult for me to understand that with this high pitch noise and swooshing going on.
       
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    2. azume

      azume Member

      Tinnitus Since:
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      Unknown...But have an idea!
      He doesn't ask for much money, you could be right, I don't know, but I think he has done his homework, more than some ENT docs.
       
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    3. Contrast
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      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      Whooshing may mean pulsatile tinnitus, https://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/aging-pulsatile-tinnitus#1

      Finally research suggest hearing tests aren't that accurate.

      Recent research indicates that hearing test used at most audiology clinics and ENTs are inaccurate. Tonal audiogram test only check for hearing loss within the human voice range, learn more here about hidden hearing loss and how hearing in noisy environments and music perception is not tested on standard hearing test.

      http://hyperacusisfocus.org/innerear/


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      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378595516302507
       
    4. Contrast
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      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      To put this in the most laymen friendly way possible, noise exposure first kills synapses & nerves, then eventually hair cells.

      Nerve damage goes undetected by hearing test. Only hair cell death shows up on the test an audiologist gives you. Audiologists neglect research.

      Also Liam Boehm is a scam artist, please avoid him.
       
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    5. azume

      azume Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown...But have an idea!
      I'm not saying he isn't but how do you know?

      He has techniques that I haven't tried and probably won't, I drink a lot of water but a fast once a week would be healthy. I think most ENT docs neglect research. Tinnitus is new to me and some obviously have been cured by some method or another and many have reduced the unwanted noise by some technique... I've been taking ginkgo and am adding zinc now and see if that can help... I believe one can be cured...

      The ENT I saw said there is no cure and don't waste your money on any product, he didn't ask if I was on meds or ask really ask any questions at all. I haven't searched around on this site to see other perspectives. I'm thinking tinnitus is a symptom and we need to find out the problem, you would think a ENT could help with that.
       
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    6. Lane

      Lane Member Hall of Fame

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      02/2018
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      Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
      Hey @azume -- Welcome to the forum. From your few posts, I got the impression you're probably open to just about anything that would work or help, including using "alternative" therapies. You may want to check out THIS POST which describes how a man from London got rid of his tinnitus after 14 years by using Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM). -- All the Best!
       
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    7. Ricardo1991
      Tired

      Ricardo1991 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
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      The world may never know..
      Update: My tinnitus has seems to have sorted itself back to 'normal' levels haha. But still trying to keep a positive outlook helps!
       
    8. Rohit Saluja
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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced and sinus infection
      Was her tinnitus noise-induced??? Can you send me any links?
       
    9. Contrast
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      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Anyone is free to take Liam's advice, but don't buy anything.

      Best case scenario he is misguided and thinks he has all the answers (quack).

      Worst case scenario he is a scammer.
       
    10. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

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      11/2013
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      Drugs barotrauma
      Instead of everyone sitting around bitching about how this guy is a scammer, why not start practicing fasting and at least give that part a shot. The health benefits are huge, it’s not dangerous at all if done correctly, and it’s free!

      It seems people here will take any kind of dangerous drug that their insane drug dealer doctor prescribes them, but are terrified to skip a few meals, very strange.
       
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    11. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

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      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      Yup.
       
    12. dfl

      dfl Member Benefactor

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      Hey forum friends. I met Liam Boehm here in Los Angeles and he was so kind. Like all of us, I’d love relief from this tinnitus. If fasting and cold water therapy helps, I’m down to try. Since I started a months ago, my tinnitus still fluctuates, but my health is so much better. I am no doctor, but my doctor is amazed my diverticulitis is so much better. Just better health overall. I like Liam and I believe he wants to help people get over their tinnitus. Dry fasting and cold immersion (Wim Hof stuff) has been proven to be helpful (at least in overall health).
       
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    13. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Are you following any particular protocol?

      I only saw Liam’s YouTube clips and while what he proposed may not be a cure for everyone, he seems to be a genuine guy who only wants people to give it a go.

      I’ve started low carb diet combined with deuterium depleted water so will see if it helps, fingers crossed!
       
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    14. another sean
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      another sean Member Benefactor

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      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Long duration of low audio
      I have also read fasting can improve health and promote stem cells in the body. I just ordered Mercola's new upcoming book about ketosis and fasting. One area I am hoping to get benefits in is I have high blood sugar, and I've read fasting can help reverse it because when fasting, the blood sugar has a chance to drop very low and it gives the cells time to become sensitive again. I don't know if it will do anything for my tinnitus but I'll be very observant of it.

      As for Liam Boehm, I had never heard of him until now. When I first read the name I thought it was the song La Vie Boheme from Rent.
       
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    15. Autumnly
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      Autumnly Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      The issue is that he claims that he can cure every type of tinnitus and that the people who don't improve simply aren't trying hard enough. It would be totally fine if he just said "Hey, cold showers/dry fasting/etc. might help" but he says he has found the cure for tinnitus. So yes, he is scamming people by trying to make them buy his tinnitus guide (if he's still selling that). Really not sure how anyone could think that guy has good intentions.
       
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    16. ajc

      ajc Member Hall of Fame

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      Loud music - noise damage
      Liam Boehm is the worst kind of scum there is. I don't know how he can live with himself. He is a disgrace. The only reason he has any followers is because many people are dumb and desperate.

      Can you imagine if Liam Boehm went to a convention with real researchers? They would laugh him out of the room so quickly. You know what though, he wouldn't even mind that, he would just think they don't understand his amazing fasting protocol and he'd keep going.
       
    17. JohnAdams
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      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      Yes they would laugh him out of the room and then buy Pawel Jastreboff a beer.
       
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    18. dfl

      dfl Member Benefactor

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      People - I paid $5000 to a TRT specialist in NY -- I was terrified when I first got tinnitus - I thought I couldn't do my job - I arranged with production to clear out an afternoon to see a TRT specialist - I was praying it would change my life. I won't say who it was - but she met me for ten minutes -- said she didn't have tinnitus but told me a (fake) story she saw a brown rock hiking once and thought it was a bear and got scared but realized it wasn't and wasn't scared - she compared tinnitus to the rock that wasn't a bear (it is a bear - a nasty one) gave me a box of hearing devices that was covered in dust and had someone else's name on it and showed me to the desk where they took my Amex card. I don't cry. I never cry. I did leaving that office. I felt so assaulted. I saw Dr. Stephen Nagler in Atlanta and the experience was totally different - he had tinnitus - he cared - he was insistent and a bit of a "tough lover" but he was always around to answer questions - I really love Dr. Nagler (and he would have charged a third of what NY charged for devices and all).

      Liam Boehm showed me a new way of living. $67 is a decent meal, an hour with a personal trainer - I am not dismissing it, but compared to $5000 it's in no way a scam. He cares, he had tinnitus, I am healthier as a result of beating tinnitus 2.0.
       
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    19. Jack Straw
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      Jack Straw Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

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      Infection, Acoustic Trauma
      Donal thank you for sharing your story. I am sorry to hear about your experience with the audiologist. It seems many of us have similar negative experiences when first going to doctors. It’s ironic that the people who are supposed to help sometimes make our mental state regarding tinnitus even worse.

      I am glad to hear you are doing well!
       
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    20. Kain
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      Kain Member

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      March, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      excessive loud music through earbuds
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      Mom says it's my turn to trick into curing tinnitus.
       
    21. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

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      “Real researchers” deserve to be laughed out of the room as well. All these different theories, no consensus, no proof of anything, still just a bunch speculation coming from all directions. There are many many thousands of theories that are dead and gone, were these all “real researchers” or just “scum”?

      I’m not sure if you have ever done any kind of research yourself, but fasting has incredible proven health benefits for the brain. Does a healthy brain mean lower tinnitus? I think it just might, it sure does for some people. Let me guess, you have no clue as to the brain benefits when it comes to fasting, nor have you ever bothered to even give it a try? You just hop on a forum and run your mouth without a clue. Typical.
       
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    22. Bam

      Bam Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Hey @dfl I agree on this front. I pissed away a fortune on really expensive scammers so even if he is one, at least he’s a cheap date.

      In that respect I genuinely don’t think there’s any harm in it but I have to say I would be curious to see if it actually reduces your tinnitus.

      Keep us posted about effects on the noise if you manage to keep it up.

      Good luck my friend and if nothing else it will leave you fit and healthy and well placed to attack the noise with bimodal stimulation when it finally gets unleashed on us.
       
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    23. Ed209

      Ed209 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

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      Fasting is historically a very valid method. Sometimes, I feel as though we have lost touch with all the knowledge that mankind has used for thousands of years, and our eating habits have changed so much now as we basically have food on demand. Our bodies are not really designed for us to be eating the way we do in the modern era, so it’s no surprise to see so many diet-related illnesses becoming a problem.

      Have you ever seen the documentary Fat Sick and Nearly Dead? He goes on a fast and essentially cures an autoimmune disorder that he was on prescription pills for. It totally baffles his Drs, and the whole process changes his life.

      I hope it works out for you and as the saying goes, “nothing ventured, nothing gained.”
       
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    24. Daniel Lion
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      Daniel Lion Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise trauma, hearing loss
      Hi Ed209, hope you're doing fine today. I have lived in Laos for 14 years now, and another 4 years in Thailand and Taiwan. Obesity and gluttony is not a societal problem here. The industrialists, the fast food and mechanized food manufacturing, the school food, the garbage we feed our kids, the portions, is an American problem, and now spreading to the rest of the world.

      Industrialized farming, steroid ridden food. I ask you why are poor and the middle class people in the USA obese. The rich tend not to be. At Walmart you can buy a family pack of steroid ridden chicken for under five dollars and feed your family. Can poor people afford organic produce, 100 dollars for a shopping bag. Fasting is not the issue, it's the quality, quantity, and lack of exercise. Leave the USA and you can see how we are sick with food and diabetes. Yes fasting has been around forever, but crap food has not, full of sugar and salt.

      I read about your health issues... do not fast, that is dangerous until you resolve your health issues. Ketosis diet, fasting, yeah that's good, but whatever happened to fruit, vegetables and drinking water. I guess there's no money in writing a book about what is self evident. Hope you're better asap, and then you can be like a monk and go on a ten day fast.

      Good luck, by the way, I live in a Bhuddist country, and the monks here don't fast.
       
    25. Telis

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      These people don’t save money, walk around Walmart and you will see how much garbage these people buy. You could eat organic in proper portion for the same price as buying a overflowing cart full of overpriced shit to feed your fat family. People are eating many times what they actually need.

      These people have low IQs or don’t give a shit, it has very little to do with affordability. You buy bags of chips, ice cream, frozen pizza, sugar cereal etc. This stuff is not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, not to mention, it’s not even food, it’s a American pass time. And then they buy mass quantities of it. Instead of a snack these people consume multiple bags of chips, a tub of ice cream, and that is just desert. You could pay for a healthy meal with just that alone. These people sit in their cars eating fast food, not just one meal, but 6-7 hamburgers at a time, this is big $$$, we are talking 50 bucks at a drive through for a in between meal snack! Seriously you have to just look around.

      These poor people are just making the wrong choices, they aren’t forced to eat crap just because they are poor, this is a excuse. I know people without a pot to piss in that are healthy, it’s a lie.
       
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    26. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Telis did you experience any worsening of tinnitus or insomnia (worse than usual) during fasting?
       
    27. Daniel Lion
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      Daniel Lion Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Respect your opinion, and people are definetly uneducated.

      But the difference in price when I visited home between say stop and shop, and the local organic supermarket was staggering.

      I agree, Americans stuff their faces with garbage that's made of garbage, but good quality food is definitely not catered to the poor areas. Even the food pantries I went to where you can redeem food stamps.

      I am with you Telis, I eat really well and am super conscious about what I put in my body. Education, I am a teacher, is so important. Having vending machines selling Cokes in schools is criminal, a McDonalds hamburger can be purchased for less than a dollar.

      I think we agree, I don't want to fight, but I do feel the game is stacked against poor people. I went to Whole Foods in Boston, 100 dollars for a bag of beautiful food, stop and shop I could have 5 to 6 bags of steroid ridden crap.

      Why do we have billboards for Kolonel cigarettes in black neighborhoods, why are there alcohol stores on every corner. Perhaps our nation could help, could fund education, local farmers, good food... guess I am a dreamer and I know one person here thinks I am a raging communist, which I am not.

      I grew up in a working class community in Boston, and it's literarly like a whaling town, the people are so fat, it's really a sickness. I don't think fasting will help them, I think education about nutrition, exercise and self esteem would be a great place to start.

      I think we're on the same page, but I employed you to do an experiment and check the prices in the food bodegas or supermarkets in a poor area and then move over to Whole Foods or Trader Joe's and see the difference.

      Education seems to be the key.
       
    28. Contrast
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      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      Have you even read the research of Roland Schaette, Susan Shore, Charlie Liberman, and Richard Salvi as well as notable others?

      They all seem to agree tinnitus is a neurological condition caused by hearing loss.
       
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    29. Daniel Lion
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      Daniel Lion Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise trauma, hearing loss
      Telis, do you have kids? "These people have low iq's or don't give a shit"', please come to Dorchester, in Boston where I grew up, you'll be embraced and shown a lot of love.

      Really, if you have a chance, come and visit, the people have low IQ's, not like you obviously, but they are really nice. You're always welcome.

      Sincerely,
      Daniel
       
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    30. James1001

      James1001 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Wax
      The way he tries to sell his program says a lot.

      It's open
      It's closed
      You missed it
      It's open again
      It's cheaper
      Email after email

      Then believe next step he tries to sell is a hefty monthly charge for some extras, and tries to sell an eBook at an eye watering £50.

      If it walks like a scammer, talks like a scammer?
       
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