University of Minnesota Tinnitus Research with Acoustic and Body Stimulation

Discussion in 'Research News' started by kelpiemsp, Apr 2, 2018.

    1. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Here's the thing. Don't all three devices go through three different body locations to apply the stimulation? That could be a factor for why UoM seemed to work better than Lenire (plus the Bluetooth vs. wired). To assume that all three are interchangeable seems like a mistake.
       
    2. Bartoli

      Bartoli Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2009,worsened 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Didn't they take Lim on board around the time they were launching? I suppose that means none of Lim's research has found its way into the current version of Lenire?
       
    3. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      From the Vimeo presentation I got the sense that the reprogramming at half-way was Lim's idea. Not having access to it anymore I can't verify but it sure seemed like he was taking credit for that idea--which hasn't fared well in the field.
       
    4. jmasterj
      No Mood

      jmasterj Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic?
      That is my understanding. They were pretty much ready to release when Neuromod brought on Lim. He mostly did presentations at various hearing/audiology events. I know Neuromod used some of Lim's earlier research to develop their device, but he wasn't involved at all. Maybe in Lenire 2.0. Of course I have 1.0 and it is pretty much a 2500 dollar paper weight.
       
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    5. jmasterj
      No Mood

      jmasterj Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic?
      That is true. Neuromod uses the tongue, Minnesota uses the ear (though Lim in his research mentions the tongue as a good pathway as well), and Michigan uses the jaw and neck based on where you can modulate your tinnitus.
       
    6. Chinmoku

      Chinmoku Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown, possibly medication
      Yes, at least from a number of anecdotal reports here.

      Re-reading this thread I feel sad, I don't think Lenire really incorporated Minnesota. I feel like we all have lost an opportunity despite Dr Lim's statements above.
       
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    7. Bartoli

      Bartoli Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2009,worsened 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Is that the infamous presentation that nearly no one has seen and was taken off the internet soon after?
       
    8. annV
      Fine

      annV Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown - possibly hereditary
      The presentation is here.

      https://gofile.io/d/xNChhH

      Get it now because Neuromod wants all of this deleted, I bet it will take less than 10 hours for this to be gone.
       
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    9. MarkLud

      MarkLud Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise/music/unknown
      I try to be positive with all of this stuff and have come a long way as far as getting used to my tinnitus, coping, etc. That said, this sounds pretty terrible on the surface lol. I had extremely high hopes for a Minnesota device based on Kelpie's success.
       
    10. Mathew Gould

      Mathew Gould Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/Jaw misalignment
      What happened? The Minnesota device is not that good now?
       
    11. Croaker
      Haunting

      Croaker Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      It was abandoned in favor of Lenire.
       
    12. Mathew Gould

      Mathew Gould Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/Jaw misalignment
      Might be a good thing if it was very similar anyways??

      Why? Because of Lim choosing Lenire??
       

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