Acoustic CR® Neuromodulation: Do It Yourself Guide

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by jibs, Apr 24, 2013.

    1. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
    2. Tim Hogan
      No Mood

      Tim Hogan Member

      Location:
      UK, England
      Tinnitus Since:
      June 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Cold/Flu (Minor) >>> Botched Acoustic Reflex Test (Severe)
      I got a question regarding this,

      I've seen the TinnitusClinic in London advertise this, Acoustic CR Neuromodulation treatment, its £4,500.

      Obviously they know what they are doing.

      Whats the difference between my doing it myself, and them doing it for me + alot of cash.

      Are there risks to this if done wrong?

      To my understanding Acoustic CR is like re-calibrating the brain, first matching the noise you hear in your head, and then by exposing the brain to this noise 2-4 hours a day its meant to reduce the Tinnitus or something.

      I stated before in another post that Binural beats made mine worse (i think anyway), and this im guessing is similar if not the same thing only more personalised.

      im rambling on now, bottom line, how safe is this? / If done wrong can it make it worse?
       
    3. whale
      No Mood

      whale Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/25/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Myofascial crap Bruxism, a jackhammer, stress who knows
      Seems kind of expensive. Did you check out Neuromonics or TRT (Tinnitus Retraining Therapy)?
       
    4. The Red Viper
      Curious

      The Red Viper Member

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      March 15, 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Current Theory: Neck injury (Tendonitis @ trap/SCM junction)
      Any time a service offers testimonials as proof I would be extremely skeptical. Also, the "trial" they did used patients that paid for the treatment, as such they themselves admitted that it could be a possible placebo effect. I'm afraid that until our subjective tinnitus becomes objectively measureable, there won't be any cure for us.
       
    5. Jamie
      Worried

      Jamie Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Location:
      Dunedin, New Zealand
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/1989
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      1989 Ear Infection 2015 Coming off Benzo
      Hi, this may have already been answered but my T (the worst tone) is around 8khz in my left ear but I am also nearly completely deaf in that frequency as well, that is what caused the T.

      Would listening to tones I can't actually hear help?

      I played the 8khz at the start of this thread and I can't hear it at all in my left ear. I can hear it in my right but I only have a small amount of hearing loss in that ear.

      Thanks.
       
    6. Julien

      Julien Member

      Location:
      FRANCE
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hit on the ear+otitis
      Hi,
      I tried your page here http://generalfuzz.net/acrn/
      I have to say i got trapped when i tried "Play ARCN" The volume was very low. Then i did "Play single frequency" and THEN the sound got very loud. Damn, you could warn about this! I was surprised by that.
       
    7. hidek

      hidek Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Sept 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      I just found this forum. Has the sound file for 9,000 hz been already posted here? If so, could you tell me where? If not, could you please post it here? Thank you very much.
       
    8. gotyoubynuts

      gotyoubynuts Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/1990
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Concert
      You can create your own sound here

      http://www.generalfuzz.net/acrn/

      Record it to your computer using guide here

      http://www.howtogeek.com/217348/how-to-record-the-sound-coming-from-your-pc-even-without-stereo-mix/

      @generalfuzz you should create EXPORT function so people can download the generated sound as audio to their machines!
       
    9. hidek

      hidek Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Sept 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      OK. Thanks for the link. I will try to make one. Best,
       
    10. Ecip

      Ecip Member

      Location:
      Edmonton, AB/Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      4.11.2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
      I can make a wav file with your frequency, if you wish. It would be 15 mins long (just play it on repeat) and about 300MB or so.. let me know.
       
    11. hidek

      hidek Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Sept 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      Ecip, That would be awesome if you could do it. Thank you very much.
       
    12. hidek

      hidek Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Sept 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      I read that we need to listen to this sound file for 4 to 6 hours per day for the first 12 weeks. Can I do when I sleep?
       
    13. Ecip

      Ecip Member

      Location:
      Edmonton, AB/Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      4.11.2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
      PM'd
       
    14. Ecip

      Ecip Member

      Location:
      Edmonton, AB/Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      4.11.2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
      Yes. Think you can sleep with that though?
       
    15. OddV
      Assassinator

      OddV Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear Infection
      Has this worked for anyone?
       
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    16. hidek

      hidek Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Sept 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      My T frequency is frequently changing. Is this common?
       
    17. Ecip

      Ecip Member

      Location:
      Edmonton, AB/Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      4.11.2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
      Yea, I think mine does.. Not too sure though..
       
    18. undecided
      Breezy

      undecided Member

      Location:
      Greece
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown.
      I would really like to know that as well.
      As far as I understand, this is masking and residual inhibition but what about the long term?
       
    19. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      Check out trial results.
       
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    20. undecided
      Breezy

      undecided Member

      Location:
      Greece
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown.
      Kinda hard to tell the actual outcome, the way the results are structured.
      It seems that there was a slight improvement on the subjective stuff (the tinnitus questionnaires).
      Not much improvement on the objective test (the EEG).
      And without a placebo group... Whatever.

      Thanks for the link.
       
    21. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      Yes I agree the study's results aren't particularly easy to decipher. I think they used "regular masking" as their control group (rather than placebo), to figure out whether ACRN was any better than pure masking. It doesn't seem like a slam dunk.
       
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    22. Nonna
      Moonlighting

      Nonna Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1/17/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      guess
      Anyone here selling an Acoustic Neuromodulation cd? Where can I get this on disc?
       
    23. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
    24. RB in Santa Cruz

      RB in Santa Cruz Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Head trauma
      This is my first post. I have been lurking for three months. I spent a lot of time in the Success Stories forum and have tried some of the things people had success with. I have been to an ENT, an audiologist, had a CT scan and consulted with a surgeon. I have been to an osteopath. I have had several sessions with a chiropractor and several sessions of acupuncture. I have been taking CBD oil, Coenzymated B-1, Ginko Biloba, Lipo Flavinoid, N-A-C, Zinc and Kudzu Root. I do not believe any of the above mentioned doctor visits or supplements had any effect on my tinnitus. I will continue with the chiropractor, acupuncture, osteopath and supplements, just in case. I have an appointment with Landmark Hearing Services in Sunnyvale Ca next week. I believe they vendor services similar to what General Fuzz has created. Out of desperation I am addressing the tinnitus with all of what is left of my brain capacity.

      I am not sure if I am doing it right, but ACRN is WORKING FOR ME. I don't know if it will hold and actually be a cure, but for short term relief ACRN is fantastic. First I went to http://generalfuzz.net/acrn/ and tried to match my tinnitus frequency. Then I hit the PLAY ACRN button and listened. It knocked my tinnitus way down. Before I found this thread and the general fuzz site I thought the T would shake my teeth loose. It never stopped and it was loud. I could hear it over almost anything. In the shower, on the freeway in a convertible, while brushing my teeth with an electric toothbrush, it was always there.

      With my wife's help and using the Audacity program mentioned previously in this thread we recorded an hour of sound for my frequency from the general fuzz site. With more help from my wife we copied the file thru Itunes onto my Iphone. I only have T on my right side. I have more hearing loss on that side and that is the side I crashed on to. I have only been at this a few days. At this point I keep the ear piece in the right side almost all the time. I can't sleep with the ACRN going, so when sleeping I use the Sound Oasis sound machine. My T is worse now first thing in morning, because I have been without the ACRN all night. I plug in first thing and it quiets down right away. I only play it on the right side and just loud enough to hear.

      I am very grateful to jibs for the thread and for this site. General Fuzz, if we ever meet face to face, I am going to kiss you.
       
    25. ruben ruiz

      ruben ruiz Member

      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      I believe it was meds and stress
      You tube has notched frequencies at various frequencies. What is the opinion of these files and audio clips?
       
    26. RODRIGO

      RODRIGO Member

      Location:
      Valencia (Spain)
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2013
      ¡Buenos días!
      Es fácil de copiar los sonidos de la terapia. un programa, a fin de tratar como SoundTap grabó los sonidos de la web y mantenerlos en formato wav. Y eso es. Luego se puede reproducir en quieran.Es muy fácil de instalar y no hay necesidad de configurar. Espero que tenga ninguna dificultad en hacerlo.
       
    27. RODRIGO

      RODRIGO Member

      Location:
      Valencia (Spain)
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2013
      And if someone is not able to do the same, and you need a recording of one hour at a certain frequency, to tell me and I will send. :)

      regards
       
    28. ruben ruiz

      ruben ruiz Member

      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      I believe it was meds and stress
      Thank you. 18 hz.
       
    29. RODRIGO

      RODRIGO Member

      Location:
      Valencia (Spain)
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2013
      Im sorry, but it´s not possible for more tan 15000 hz…
       
    30. Candy

      Candy Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unidentified
      @RB in Santa Cruz General Fuzz has just written an article on The Mighty... which is brilliant as it helps spread awareness.
       
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