Will You Get Vaccinated for Coronavirus (COVID-19)? Can It Make Tinnitus or Hyperacusis Worse?

Discussion in 'Support' started by TheDanishGirl, Nov 13, 2020.

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Will you get vaccinated for coronavirus?

  1. Yes, right away, as soon as possible, when the first vaccine becomes available

  2. Yes, planning to, but I will wait a while to see if there are any potential long-term side effects

  3. Maybe, I haven't decided yet one way or another

  4. No, I'm not going to get vaccinated

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    1. Damocles
      Spooky

      Damocles Member Benefactor

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear Infection
      So with you there.
      Dude... THIS is your biggest concern!? Not people effectively being given the ultimatum of take thing you don't want in your body or no means of feeding, clothing, housing, educating, yourself or your children ever again!? And that's just for now, who knows how far into something out of a dystopian horror this goes. Are you aware of China's one child policy? Do you support it? Have you seen the footage of women pregnant with their second child, being dragged out of their homes in China, to have their babies forcefully aborted?

      You don't think this is where we're going? Jesus Christ... you all must be a bunch of sociopaths...

      I was hoping @Tinker Bell would show today, because she was pretty vocal at a time when her and @linearb were practically writing monologues in this thread (notice @GlennS didn't pop up then, to tell us who the thread had "started revolving around"...)

      Anyway she seems to have ducked out. But I'll post this as a moral dilemma for both her and @linearb who both seem to believe that if something is legal then it can't be morally objectionable.

      Imagine your employer calls you into their office one day and tells you: I'm going to fire you, unless you provide me with sexual gratification. Also, the sexual gratification has to be unprotected, because that's how I want it. I can't provide you with anything that proves I don't have HIV, but you have my word for it, I don't!

      Do you:

      a) Just DO it, feel violated and worry about a potentially life changing STD later down the line.
      b) Leave your job. Receive a bad reference from your employer and struggle to ever find work again.
      c) Take the motherf*cker to court for trying to violate your human rights and put something inside you, you don't want inside you.

      Please answer honestly.

      inb4 "that's a ridiculous question and I'm not dignifying it with an answer" (let's see guys).

      Because at the end of the day, the vaccine mandates are no different. They are no different than coercive rape. And may soon just be PLAIN rape.
      Hate to break it to you, but just the general human population itself, provides the perfect breeding ground; vaccinated and unvaccinated it makes no difference. (I'll explain in my next point).
      This will NEVER happen. NEVER. Even the CDC has acknowledged that COVID-19 is here for good.

      The Situation Room on Twitter: "“Our vaccines are working exceptionally well,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky tells @wolfblitzer. “They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission."

      COVID-19 will likely be with us forever. Here's how we'll live with it. | National Geographic

      The vaccines cannot stop the spread. I don't know how many more times I'll have to reiterate this.

      No matter how many people get vaccinated > they will still carry the virus > they will still spread virus > the virus will keep transmitting between people. It's a permanent resident on our planet now, the only question is how it will evolve.
       
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    2. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      beliefs are makyo and reality ignores them
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      karma
      I am sorry but I don't even know where to begin with that.

      I believe that post is so full of easily falsifiable misinformation and complete misrepresentation of things I've said (or, in many cases, not actually said) that I do not believe it is worth any amount of effort to respond to.

      If you would like to see that as a clear sign that your ideas are superior and you've won the argument, by all means, do. I think your ideas are dangerous and irrational and I believe we should put each other on ignore and stop interacting since clearly neither of us is going to move an inch, nor will @Tinker Bell or any of the others who are fairly entrenched in our positions here, barring actual new data that meaningfully changes the scientific consensus on any of this.

      However, that said, I certainly and sincerely wish you the best with your health and your tinnitus; tinnitus fucking sucks and I wouldn't wish this on anyone no matter how much I might disagree with their views. Cheers and good luck, sir.

      Ultimately, I will make my own decisions regarding my and my children's vaccinations, and therefore I have to accept that others will do the same, and may make different decisions. I feel fortunate to live someplace where there's basically no regional disagreement on any of this, that would make life much more unpleasant.
       
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    3. Ed209

      Ed209 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2015
      I haven't been here for a long time, but after briefly reading what I've missed, it's probably for the best. The available data is largely being ignored in favour of one's biases. There can be no meaningful outcome from a debate of this nature. It is far too partisan.

      I noticed there's a post with news articles debunking the fact that hospitals were overwhelmed. I went into this in great detail many months ago, and everything I said was pretty much cast aside and ignored. I was in regular contact with a clinical lead consultant who knew the situation extremely well, not only having worked exhaustive hours on the front line, but he also knew what was going on in other hospitals across the country via his colleagues. This for me was reliable first-hand information. Not only that, but we know some paramedics who were furious about the whole myth that "hospitals were not being overwhelmed." They were queuing around the block and it was taking many hours to admit patients. This often meant that their shifts would run over.

      I ended up being hospitalised myself as many of you are aware. The problem, as I see it, is that those who are convinced that they know an alternative truth nearly always get their information from the internet or social media, and not reality. My mom saw first-hand what it was like to see people dying with it, and it haunts her to this day.

      People here will ultimately believe whatever suits their situation. It's as simple as that. One could have the most indisputable evidence in the world, but it would still not sway an opinion either way, because once someone commits to believing something, it is incredibly difficult to alter that mindset. It's like un-engraving granite.
       
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    4. AfroSnowman
      Balanced

      AfroSnowman Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 16 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Nonnatural energy source
      Because they do testing of folks in the hospital.

      Both the CDC and GOI do sampling of the genetic subtype of people with COVID-19. Over 95% are currently Delta.
       
    5. Damocles
      Spooky

      Damocles Member Benefactor

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear Infection
      Yeah, so you didn't really need to type any of that, I pretty much had you covered with the inb4.
      I mean, I quoted you in every response, in what way could I further present what you've "actually said"?
      I'm not here to "win" any argument. I'm here trying make people aware, that they and everyone around them will not become seriously ill/die if we don't all get vaccinated.
      Feel exactly the same about yours. At least mine don't involve making people do things they don't want to do.
      If you feel that way go ahead. Personally, I feel that to ignore is to be ignorant and I don't like to be that.
      Very much agree with you on this.

      In fact:
      The Thing (1982) - The end?


      Although, like I said before: won't be thrilled if I'm right and millions of people start developing terminal cancer prematurely.
      Honestly, if I could wave a magic wand and rid everyone on this site of their tinnitus this second, I'd do it. The problem is I think your judgement is off, and the movement that you are (seemingly obliviously) a part of is, in my opinion, going to make our already miserable lives on this forum, a lot more miserable.
      I get that you're only doing what you think is best. As am I.

      If only we could have states for those who were pro COVID-19 vaccines and states for those who were anti COVID-19 vaccines, that would be wonderful, but let me assure you (not that you'll believe me) globalists would never let that happen. The whole endgame in this pandemic and subsequent vaccine rollout, is to use people like you and other's fears to help subjugate the rest of us into total compliance. Scary times unfortunately.
       
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    6. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      There's a lot of parallels between this thread and the dumpster fire that was the 2020 election thread. Same epistemic closure from right-wingers. No amount of truth bomb events has helped. Trump getting COVID-19 didn't make people wear masks. Trump getting vaccinated didn't even cause his base to trust it. The Delta statistics clustering in red-states isn't moving the needle. Gov. Abbot of Texas getting COVID-19 by not masking up won't move the needle. The right have permanently destroyed the critical thinking skills of a huge chunk of the US population in favor of its brand of ultra-tribalism. It's been decades in the making and now it's in full deadly bloom.

      The thing is, it's ultimately counter-productive as far as the election goes. You can't vote in the mid-terms if you're dead. We'll see how much Jim Crow gaming of election laws can compensate for Darwin-awards being given to Republicans in 2022.
       
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    7. Damocles
      Spooky

      Damocles Member Benefactor

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear Infection
      Okay, @linearb (head of pro-vaccine division) has cashed in his chips and at this point I'm ready to do the same, because there's not much more to say that I haven't said already.

      And Ed? Yeah, you're too late to the party mate. I'm tired, and to engage with you would just be to regurgitate the same points I've made several times over.

      But before I quit for good, I want to leave this thread on a thought: why are there people on this forum, and on other forums, and all around the world, that are so determined to persuade/convince/pressure/bully/shame everyone else into get the vaccine? I'm genuinely curious.

      Is it because:

      A) Deep down, they themselves carry some doubt that this vaccine they've taken may in fact be toxic? and thus feel that by telling others (us) that it isn't, they reassure themselves that it isn't?

      or

      B) They are truly concerned that BY THE WHOLE WORLD NOT GETTING VACCINATED (which, by the way, would be impossible, guys) this vaccine will mutate and become something far more deadly than it currently is?

      If it's the latter, then here's the thing, you're just plain wrong. Even if it were possible to vaccinate everyone across the globe (again, not) this still would not prevent the virus from mutating. We already know this vaccine cannot protect you from infection. This is proven 100%, there's no debate to be had. Vaccinated people are transmitting the virus. Vaccinated people have ended up seriously ill in hospital wards... even the mainstream media couldn't brush this under the carpet. Thus, what we have on our hands, is a "leaky vaccine", a vaccine that may (emphasis on the word "may", notice) prevent you from experiencing symptoms, but will not prevent the virus from entering your body and replicating.

      So at this point already, the vaccines purpose is unclear... The virus will still enter your body, replicate, possibly mutate and spread to other people.

      But here's the problem: the danger doesn't end here. With a leaky vaccine we now run the risk of ADE (Antibody Dependant Enhancement), or in layman's terms: THE VACCINE MAKING THE VIRUS MORE DEADLY BY REFINING IT (because the virus is now forced to create VACCINE RESISTANT STRAINS). Is this starting to make sense?

      This guy explains it a lot better than I ever could:

      Mt Vernon School Board Meeting Dr Dan Stock MD


      So to what end is it of interest to any of you, that any of us have the vaccine? It doesn't make you (or your families) any safer.

      But it doesn't end there, because then there's the fact that you're endorsing a useless vaccine that is potentially lethal.

      Potentially lethal how: well I've covered this more than once, but sure, one more time.

      1) Young, fit and healthy people are being killed and maimed by the vaccine (indisputable), developing myocarditis, pericarditis, bells palsy, Guillain-Barre syndrome (and more) in high numbers. Yes, the virus may do this, but the vaccine might too, so why should people double their chances of dying or being left with a (second) horrible disability?

      2) mRNA vaccine technology is currently UNSAFE.

      Still don't believe me despite what I've already posted in this thread, fine:

      lewrockwell.com: Lee Merritt: In Animal Studies, After Being Injected With MRNA Technology, All Animals Died Upon Reinfection

      coronanews123.wordpress.com: Doctor Says mRNA COVID Shot Animal Trials Were Halted Because Animals Were Dying

      As I said before, this was once trialled in animals and it caused them all to die horrendously when exposed to the wild vaccine...

      Of course, the mainstream media proclaim to have "debunked" all negative press.... well no they haven't, because just removing the source of information you don't like and replacing it with a video or webpage that says the inset source has been "debunked", doesn't make it so. But what they really have done is discredited all doctors sharing dissuasive information, declaring them pariahs of the scientific community, despite the fact that in the past they were all regarded as highly prominent researchers in their fields (until they spoke out against COVID-19 mRNA vaccines... funny that).

      "Dr. Lee Merritt (first link), previously studied bioweapons while serving as an orthopedic surgeon in the United States Navy for 9 years, sat on the board of the Arizona Medical Association, and has published numerous peer-reviewed papers", so not a credible source at all, I guess...

      Why would the mainstream media, technology firms and government health organisations cover all this up? I don't know, your guess is as good as mine, but it wouldn't be the first time multinational conglomerates had the above named in their pockets, would it?

      What? "big-pharma" putting profit before peoples wellbeing!? shocking.

      I'm kind of in awe of the fact that any tinnitus sufferers are sceptical of this, actually. We know pharma and research companies are no different than any corporate business and are entirely focused on profit (undeniable), but never at the risk of their customers health or wellbeing? Really guys? Is this what you think?

      I have literally worked for companies that manufactured children's toys that were made with the most toxic chemicals imaginable, and these were approved for sale in the UK, but you think Pfizer and Moderna etc. are somehow different? That they give a f*ck about your health as opposed to their profit? That's why they made sure they had no legal liability if you were paralysed (just one example of the prizes you could win) or killed by your vaccine? Okay.

      3) Robert Malone INVENTOR OF MRNA VACCINE TECHNOLOGY is against it's use:

      Video of Robert Malone interview

      4) Finally: The former Vice President and Chief Scientist at Pfizer has literally stated we are "at the gates of hell" thanks to the mRNA vaccines and vaccine passports:

      vaccinedeaths.com: Dr. Michael Yeadon on vaccine passports: We will be standing at the “gates of hell” if implemented, and they will push us in

      rumble.com: Ex-Pfizer VP Yeadon Warns: Children 50 Times More Likely to Die From Vaccine Than Virus

      rumble.com: Former Pfizer VP Yeadon Exposes How Covid Vaccines Were Fraudulently Approved

      rumble.com: Dr. Michael Yeadon: The Fake Idea Of Covid Variants

      (If this doesn't ring alarm bells, I'm not sure what will...)

      The sad thing is, despite the fact we already know despotic governments that abuse their citizens and provide no freedoms or human rights, exist, for some reason we believe it could never happen here in our (diminishingly) democratic countries. All it takes is to allow governments a few inches of our liberties, and then they're gone forever. Don't believe me? You'll find out.

      If you can't see the parallels between the rhetoric "have a vaccine or no longer be able to function within society" and the complete stripping away of all your freedoms, then you shouldn't even be giving an opinion on a subject of this magnitude.

      Coming to an end, if any of you knows within your heart that your reasons fall within category (A) then that is highly irresponsible of you.

      If you fall into category (B) then I think you really need to dig deeper into this whole subject (maybe look at alternative sources as opposed to just mainstream ones, and come to a conclusion based on what you've heard from both sides).

      Of course you could just accuse me of being a QAnon alternative media nut (despite the fact I've never even been on QAnon in my life...) but really, who in this day and age can avoid information from the mainstream media, or using the "tech giant" search engines when their online? Think about that and I think you'll find I've heard everything there is to hear from the pro-COVID-19-vaccine lobby.

      Though, if you still fall into category (B) after what I've just posted and fact checked what I've said, then I'd say you truly are a lost cause. Congratulations on playing your part in the erosion of what's left of human rights and freedom in this world, and ushering in a new era of utter hell. Your life with tinnitus as it is now, is going to have seemed like a walk in the park, because nothing is ever going "back to normal".

      Goodbye.
       
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    8. Ed209

      Ed209 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2015
      I'd just like to add here that my mom and I became seriously ill because of COVID-19, and 10 people that we knew died. No flu season in my lifetime has ever come remotely close to this. So, what you're saying is that I should listen to you, and/or the random articles that you've posted, and ignore the reality of the situation I lived through?

      If you went into an area of conflict and witnessed many atrocities, but there were articles saying the situation was peaceful, are you saying you would ignore your real-world experience and believe the articles? I care not for the unverified written accounts of strangers.
       
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    9. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      In my experience, very few discussions of controversial topics ever results in anyone changing their opinions. Maybe one in a thousand cases at best, and those who do change their opinions usually don't admit it to the public.

      This is after having been on the internet since it first became available to mere mortals and having literally wasted enough time jousting over issues like these to get a few PhDs.

      In all the years of the internet it has only reinforced people's resistance to ever admitting being wrong and actually, you know, learning.

      This devolution of the human species reaches its apex at the point where people are failing to acknowledge reality up to the point where it slams them over the head. We really did not get to this point of modern civilization being this stupid and short-sighted. Irrigating the fields with Brawndo ala Idiocracy seems positively mild compared to the unintentional but directly suicidal tendencies of COVID-19 denialists.

      It would be hard to argue that the world as it is now is not very firmly in the realm of dystopia and the only silver lining is the fact Trump didn't get reelected. But I have no doubt the worst is yet to come.

      In the meantime, I suggest you guys employ the ignore filter rather than continuing to waste your time engaging with the growing number of NPCs.
       
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    10. Ed209

      Ed209 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

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      07/2015
      Are you sure it's not you who's late to the party? ;)
      I can only speak for myself here, but at no point have I tried to persuade people to do anything. I made it clear from the beginning that I had my reservations about these vaccines and that I was pro choice. There is a clear difference, in my mind at least, between misinformation and evidence-based points. It became obvious that some on here were not interested in the truth because of their deep-seated anti-vaxx beliefs.

      I don't even know who you are @Damocles, but you talk like we've had many debates. I also have no interest in continuing with this thread, either. This will be my last post here because there is no point to it. Nobody will ever agree with each other, so why waste our energy?
       
    11. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
    12. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
    13. Wrfortiscue
      Provocative

      Wrfortiscue Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Trauma
      I mean you’re not wrong. My co-worker and a guy I knew my age both died. 41 and 34. It’s just that the vaccine can cause problems like for myself and others. At this point I probably need to suffer and get another shot.
       
    14. Cernuto
      Spaced

      Cernuto Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      I would suggest anyone on the fence about the mRNA spike protein-based technology thoroughly educate themselves on the topic before making a decision. An exceptional amount of anecdotal evidence regarding these vaccines can be reasonably verified to be true, then compiled into probabilistic evidence if only one chooses to simply look at it.
       
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    15. 2noist

      2noist Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/02/2015
    16. HeavyMantra
      Bugridden

      HeavyMantra Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Steadily worsening since 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Would this be better for people with tinnitus?
       
    17. Michael17
      Alienated

      Michael17 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Hi everyone,

      I decided to get vaccinated yesterday with the J&J vaccine. I still have doubts and questions, just like those that have already been posted. For me, it got down to relative risks - the risk of contracting COVID-19 with potentially life threatening implications or worsening my tinnitus. I wanted to hold our for Novavaxx, but given that this is likely not going to get approved until Q1 2022 (outside the US), it is not feasible. If you have to get out of your house to work, etc., unless you are vaccinated, life is going to become very complicated.

      So far, other than a mild headache and being tired, I have not had any significant impact to my tinnitus (noise induced). It's a bit more annoying today than normal. I started taking Alpha Lipoic Acid, Glutathione, NAC, and Echinacea (triple the recommended dose for all) several days before getting vaccinated, in addition to all my usual supplements, and will continue to do so for the next 1-2 weeks. Will never know if all of this additional supplementation makes a difference, but in my view, could never hurt.

      I will continue to provide updates which I hope will prove helpful to others.

      Michael
       
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    18. Michael17
      Alienated

      Michael17 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Hi everyone,

      Just wanted to provide an update since getting my J&J vaccination last Saturday. I am happy to report that other than soreness around the injection site, along with a mild headache and fatigue for 2 days after getting vaccinated, it had no impact on my tinnitus (positive or negative).

      Wishing everyone the best should you decide to go ahead and get vaccinated.

      P.S. I took Glutathione and NAC before and after vaccination day @ triple the suggested dose. I believe this helped to keep the side effects from vaccination limited; however, about 5 days afterward being vaccinated I did develop a pretty bad case of the hives. I stopped taking the Glutathione and NAC and hives seem to be receding.

      Michael
       
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    19. Stu1983
      Studious

      Stu1983 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Around 2008/spiked Dec 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      2008 sound/ 2018 Meds made the volume several times worse
      Hello Sen. I hope you’re well. I always wondered what happened to you and am happy to see you post again. How is your health now?

      Love and respect,
      Stu
       
    20. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      I would strongly suggest not spreading misinformation that everything is fine until the build up of antibodies and immune fallout cascade has throughly finished.

      2.5 weeks. If nothing has occured to your tinnitus by then I would be comfy saying you're out of the woods and a checkbox on the "did jack shit to tinnitus" category.
      This goes for the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc shots... as if any biocompany is "smart" they should have been tailoring the vax to the delta variant as well as finding another target mechanism other than the gloryhole spike protein to use for limiting spread, infectivity, symptoms.

      Why we are using a vaxx which still allows infection and transmission is absolutely bonkers to me (even 10% transmission is too high, we would never have eradicated some very serious infections otherwise). It's stoking the flames for another successful mutation, and the more it changes the less your current antibodies will work, and perhaps the immune cascade would be even stronger ironically.

      Basically god help us all, this reopening with a half working vaccine is stupid as shit.
      You won't die from COVID-19 with the vax!.........YET! And it will be too late when they realize all the booster shots in the world won't work on an essentially different virus.

      Damned if you do damned if you don't. These waves because of re-opening attempts is the dumbest thing Ive ever seen the human race do and a failure of democracy.
       
    21. Michael17
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      Michael17 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I was not looking to provide guidance to anyone on this site or suggest that everything is "fine". I believe that we are all looking for information to make an informed decision as to whether or not we might wish to consider getting vaccinated. I was merely sharing my experience so that others may wish to consider it in their decision.
       
    22. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      Imo it provides a false sense of security to others if you state all is good before the vaccine has had time to take full effect. That's all. I'm just asking people to wait the full 2.5 weeks before giving the all clear.

      People are using this thread to basically weigh the odds of the vaccine worsening tinnitus vs. chancing COVID-19 vs. how long can you stay in a bubble for and will this blow over?

      If after 2.5 weeks there's still no change, that's a much more definite time and gives a firmer foundation to deciding to go with the vaccine.

      I'd hate to be the guy that gets worse because I jumped into the "they didn't get worse 3 days after" category, and then got worse two weeks later, and then find out that original poster indeed spiked 2 weeks later.

      It's misinformation until the probabilities are low enough that it would have any effect at all.

      You're literally at peak time for worsening, even though yes the chance is still on the "whole" low that the vaccine would do anything to tinnitus or hearing, but everyone here is probably coherent on that fact.

      But even a 5% chance (less in those not predisposed likely) is a big gamble if you have the severe tinnitus or hearing loss already.
       
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    23. mohn

      mohn Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Little out of context question - do pets get COVID-19? Can animals spread COVID-19?

      Are there any medicines (yet) that can cure COVID-19?
       
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    24. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      There is one anti-viral that limits its proof reading ability and allows for more mutations. This isn't as it sounds, most mutations are crap copies and don't survive, so on the whole it helps you, but it's used for dire infections.

      Anything can "carry" COVID-19 or any other virus on the surface.

      As far as infection goes, I don't think pets harbour the same ACE2 receptor as humans... so if they catch it they end up pissing or sneezing it away...

      Same goes for humans and bats, we have lots of viruses in us but none of them "fit" anything... so they just pass on by.

      Vaccines are still the best bet so long as it's tailored to the strain... otherwise it may blunt the effects but the immune system will still end up making "new' antibodies for the strain.
      A typical vaccine you get is exactly what you'll be hit with, so the effective infection gets no foothold at all or it limits its ability to re-activitate in your cells.
       
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    25. Colin Boots

      Colin Boots Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      took a large amount of ibuprophen after getting beaten up
      Hello, I'm new to posting here but I regularly read this site.

      A couple of days ago I was let go from my job as a cook.

      They gave me some BS about not learning fast enough when I had been there 1 month and memorized how to work the desserts, fryer, oven and salad station. Pretty damn good. I was proud of my
      Crème Brûlée.

      The reason was not my speed. It was totally because there is now a security guard waiting at the door checking people's COVID-19 vaccination status and they lied about the reason I think, maybe, so they don't have to compensate me. Anyway, it doesn't mater much to me.

      I also want to travel and my girlfriend and mother do not want me to go without a vaccine.

      I'm very sensitive to anything ototoxic.

      At another job that I had a few months ago I was washing the dishes and I got a drop of bleach near my ear. The tinnitus got worse and has stayed worse for me. To the point where I quit because I just couldn't risk getting any more of it near me.

      My life is barely holding on as it is. Yet I'm doing better than ever, I'm working, I have a girlfriend, I'm close to getting my black belt, I have a drive and ambition to move out and support myself.

      I can find another job as a line cook fairly easily. Right now everyone is hiring. I might be working at The Cactus Club Cafe soon enough. I have an interview with them on Thursday and an appointment to get vaccinated on Friday. I'd love to see how a more commercial kitchen is run.

      However, I'm extremely afraid of losing everything because I can't sleep at night and I don't know if taking the vaccine is worth the risk.

      Here's my question to all of you.

      Has anyone taken the COVID-19 vaccination and had their tinnitus remain at the same noise level? What has been your experience with it?

      Sorry for all the backstory and flavor text. But I'm desperate enough to ask you, what should I do?
       
    26. GregCA
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      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      I have.
      The tinnitus remained at the same noise level.
      The rest was arm soreness and fatigue (especially on the 2nd shot).
       
    27. TinaRuns

      TinaRuns Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Sept 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection / perforation
      I've only read a few comments here. But those who decide not to get vaccinated absolutely should be denied medical care for COVID-19 if those who are vaccinated need care that can't otherwise be provided.

      The rest is insane and those who decide to ignore reality absolutely deserve whatever health ramifications come their way.

      Just like someone who smokes their entire lives, please don't come crying to me when you develop COPD, congestive heart failure, or lung cancer.

      The difference in that scenario is (mostly) lung cancer isn't contagious (except second hand smoke which is legally regulated at least in many respects -- not well enough regulated but regulated).

      And lung cancer patients aren't overwhelming hospitals. Or creating new variants.

      And those who are vaccinated can transmit the virus but not to as many people for as long because of a lower viral load.

      I've always been very healthy and those who make crazy choices have always perplexed me. I'd say knock yourself out but for this being a contagious disease.

      And for any public facing business owners. You are losing business from lots of people like me, with money to spend, because I will not go into any bar, restaurant, or gym unless and until vaccines are required to enter and not easily forged. Long COVID-19 is a hard pass for me. Multiply my money by the millions of people who feel exactly the same way and aren't planning to change our minds ever.

      Also vaccine mandates aren't anything new and only a small minority used to protest them. But enter the craziness and conspiracy theories and political crap and everyone has lost their absolute minds.
       
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    28. Syd Barrett

      Syd Barrett Member

      Location:
      Glasgow
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/91
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Other
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    29. Syd Barrett

      Syd Barrett Member

      Location:
      Glasgow
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/91
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Other
      Reading your comment helps explain why probably otherwise good people go along with evil actions. It takes willful blindness not to be aware that the number of reported deaths and injuries from these vaccines dwarf any other vaccine since adverse events started to be systematically captured (in VAERS, etc).

      To demand that people, in order to live normal lives, must submit to a medical intervention that has a higher chance of death or injury than any other vaccine in modern history in order to protect themselves - not other people, since it has little or no affect on transmission or infection - from a respiratory illness with a Infection Fatality Rate comparable to seasonal influenza suggests that something has caused you to start seeing people who choose not to take this particular set of vaccinations as other.

      This kind of dehumanisation of other people is often the prelude to terrible crimes or even atrocities being committed, precisely because the perpetrators see their victims as somehow deserving of their fate.

      I'm sure you are otherwise a good and honest person. But it's frightening to be alive at a time when people like you are being emotionally manipulated - largely through fear - into foregoing part of your humanity.
       
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    30. Kam75

      Kam75 Member

      Location:
      FRANCE
      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced trauma in 2014 and 2019+ototoxic drug in 2020
      I am 30 years old and refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine for reasons that have most certainly been discussed here before, including:

      - Little insight into adverse events.
      - The disclaimer signed by the manufacturers of the vaccine in case of serious side effects.
      - The fact that in some people, this vaccine can cause or worsen tinnitus (even if this is rare).

      And what's the point of having this vaccine anyway? My life is already ruined because of this damn tinnitus (no more social life, no more parties, no more cinema, no more sport because of fatigue...).
       
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