Will You Get Vaccinated for Coronavirus (COVID-19)? Can It Make Tinnitus or Hyperacusis Worse?

Thanks. One percent is still pretty rare. I mean I’m not trying to talk anybody in or out of getting the vaccine. I would expect that the numbers will go up as more people are getting vaccinated and reporting side effects.

 

It's just shocking that your government can force you to get vaccinated and is threatening people with losing their jobs.

It does not sound very democratic.

 

@Forever hopeful, I've had my booster done 2 weeks ago. I'll write about this in the COVID-19 vaccine thread.

 

Thinking through the numbers:

• 428 million vaccine doses have been given in the U.S.
• Around 50 million Americans experience tinnitus each year
• Less than 12,000 reports of new or worsening tinnitus post vaccination

Seems the number of tinnitus reports is actually lower than what would be expected in a normal year.

 

LE: 3 weeks. Time flies

 

It would also be interesting to know how many experience a worsening who already have tinnitus and are neurotic about it, compared with those who have tinnitus but aren’t obsessive.

This could be a comparison between those who are actively involved in support groups, who regularly seek information and read about vaccine spikes, vs those who continue to live relatively normally.

I’d genuinely like to see if there’s a meaningful statistical difference between both groups.

I think sometimes we can know too much, and this isn’t necessarily a good thing. We can sometimes create our own problems, in my opinion.

 

Good question.

Both my father and my father in law have tinnitus, but they aren't neurotic about it. Not a spike after 3 Pfizer shots.

 

Imagine if anti-vaxers on here spent their time researching a cure for tinnitus vs reading Facebook propaganda? We would have a cure for tinnitus by now!

 

I find that hard to believe... and I think Joe Rogan would too.

How has anyone proved COVID-19 "vaccines" work?

How Ivermectin became a Target for the ‘Fraud Detectives.’ - The Palmer Foundation

In any case, Dr Lawrie and Dr Bryant etc. re-ran the meta-analysis and found even with the removal of Elgazzar's paper the findings weren't affected:

Joint Statement of the FLCCC Alliance and British Ivermectin Recommendation Development Group on Retraction of Early Research on Ivermectin (newswise.com)

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines. American Journal of Therapeutics, 28, e434–e460, July 2021 (nih.gov)

Here's what I think of Cochrane:

Cochrane announces support of new donor | Cochrane

Gates Foundation Buys Cochrane Integrity for $1.15 Million: The Death of Scientific Integrity | "Global Possibilities"

Much like The Guardian newspaper:

REVEALED: A Guardian website receives MILLIONS in funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation! – Unity News Network

No?

The Undeniable Ivermectin Miracle in India’s 240m Populated Largest State, Uttar Pradesh – Horowitz - NewsRescue.com

India Could Sentence WHO Chief Scientist to Death for Misleading Over Ivermectin and Killing Indians | NextBigFuture.com

Important one (make sure to read between the lines here):

1.
Japan sees huge drop in cases after it switches to Ivermectin (freewestmedia.com)

So, doctors switched to Ivermectin; saw massive success.

2.
Japan Continues to Use Vaccines, Not Ivermectin, to Fight COVID-19 - FactCheck.org

Okay, so that's fake news, Japan is using "vaccines" not Ivermectin.

3.
Japan's success in smashing its latest wave of COVID has 'puzzled' health experts - ABC News

Japan now leading the way in the "fight against COVID-19", but we don't know why... probably the 70% vaccination rate... but why isn't that making a difference anywhere else?

Now go back to 1 and repeat the steps.

Yeah, she's just some random pretty female who dressed up as a nurse to share her made up experience of working on the frontline during the pandemic for the LULZ.

Or maybe she's getting paid...

I wonder how much and by whom? What's her agenda? Maybe we should ask @Jack Straw? He seems to be the expert on agendas.

So it's either: believe everything told to us by "approved" sources and scientists that are: bought, owned and controlled by 1% of the global population; or we're living in the Matrix. Got it.

Uh... I don't quite know what to say to this. It should be blindingly obvious to any rational person that it's the other way around. Recent head injury?

Do you know how much Pfizer, Moderna etc. have made from the "vaccine rollout" and how much more profit they're set to make over the coming years? Why they and the media puppets they control are pushing so hard to ensure COVID-19 "vaccination" for children as young as 6 months old?

Ivermectin is a cheap off-patent drug (the patent expired 25 years ago) that doesn't offer enough financial incentive or benefit for any pharmaceutical company to promote it, or lobby for it's use.

Okay, so the American Journal of Therapeutics is just a publisher of pseudo-science?

I mean, just going back to what you were saying about published-well respected journals...

Anyway, what you or I believe doesn't change what's happening.

Doctors all around the world are using Ivermectin, and it's saving lives; just you won't hear about it on the news channels you claim not to watch, and the newspapers you claim not to read, because: alternative treatment = threat to Pfizer (etc.) profits.

Don't mention Ivermectin; it'll upset the vaccine rollout - BizNews.com

 

For someone who can do as much research as you do, you really like to have blinders on. If you honestly think that COVID-19 vaccines don’t work, we have nothing to talk about. It’s like talking to a wall because your are refusing to acknowledge vaccine effectiveness which is widely accepted by the scientific community.

You are picking articles and studies that only support your view point, while also ignoring the overwhelming data and science about how vaccines work.

Why do you think you’re smarter than the majority of scientists who are experts in this field? Why would they lie about the vaccine or COVID-19? A big conspiracy?

Regardless, just chill and listen to some Lady Gaga. Believe the experts and not some random on Facebook or Joe Rogan. Get vaccinated and everything is going to be okay

 

Seems like there are 2 threads on this, but I will copy and paste from my reply on the other COVID-19/vaccine thread below...

Answer = Yes I will/did get the vaccine...

1st BioNTech vaccine 10/06/2021 - no impact on tinnitus.

2nd BioNTech vaccine 19/07/2021 - felt pretty rough and a few days of "slightly" increased tinnitus, but back to decreasing baseline in a week or so.

Tested positive for COVID-19 (Delta variant) 26/10/2021 - felt a bit rough for 5 days but pretty mild symptoms overall, maybe slightly raised tinnitus 2/10 or 3/10 for a couple of days rather than normal baseline 1/10. Also lost taste and smell for 48 hours but back to normal now.

Personally glad I had the vaccine as I have moderate asthma/hypertension and on day 3 of positive COVID-19 felt a few hours of COVID-19 hitting the lungs, increasing my wheezing, but then a few hours later it backed off and just back up to head symptoms of congestion/headache for the last days of symptoms. I read reports that, even though COVID-19 enters via the nose/throat, it eventually progresses south but often the vaccine kicks in by this time to contain it up top and this really felt like what happened to me on day 3. So no idea if the "mild" symptoms I experienced are due to the vaccine or not, but overall considering the above - pretty happy I went with having the vaccine.

 

A Review and Autopsy of Two COVID Immunity Studies

 

This is a really good article @aura... I'm just kind of surprised you linked it, because I considered you to be quite pro-COVID-"vaccine, and this article is very anti-COVID-"vaccine"... ( ° ʖ̯ °)

 

12,000 reports of tinnitus out of 430,000,000 doses is more like .002%. Even if there are 100× more tinnitus events than reported you're still talking about 0.2%. Tinnitus is an extremely rare side effect of these vaccines.

 

I received the Moderna vaccines and the booster shot.

The second vaccine dose was rough, but the booster shot produced one of the strongest headaches I have ever had.

Neither influenced the tinnitus symptoms I experience.

 

We have a winner!

 

Yes @Alexandor Scott. Reports. REPORTS.This is the key word in your paragraph.

Do you remember the first day/week/month you developed tinnitus?

What was at the forefront of your mind?

Was it:

a) I must sit down and fill out a difficult form with hard to find details (like my "vaccine batch number") so I can report this to my doctor.

or

b) WTF SH*T!? MY WHOLE LIFE IS OVER, I CAN'T LIVE LIKE THIS I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF!!!
Literally every single one of us here has been through this sh*t, and you actually think people are going to be in the right frame of mind to report their tinnitus?

I mean, did you report your doctor/ENT for malpractice when he told you to "go away and live with it"?

Give me a break. The stupidity on this topic has me regretting my lack of care for my ears in the past more now than ever before, because if I didn't have tinnitus, I wouldn't have to read this sort of thing.

 

Well, I got my first dose 3 days ago. I have been spiking on and off since. Today was a really loud day. Both ears. Not sure I can blame the vax, as I have wildly fluctuating tinnitus. I will need to monitor over the next few days.

 

It means nothing though without correlating time of onset with those vaxxed versus previous years with sudden onset.

If there's a stat sig increase in spontaneous cases within vaxx antibody development timeslots that should be the spittake if it's a really high correlation. It would also be very important to correlate pre existing vascular or auditory issues.

The lower spontaneous cases overall are more likely due to people isolating so less infections as well as less risks in general like concerts.

I also agree with @Damocles that because of the concern of tinnitus and how a vaxx or infection might take likely up to 3 weeks to cause it people are freaking out moreso than making connections and reporting.

 

In reference to your sentence, perhaps taking a break from this site might leave you less triggered.

No one is forcing you to be here reading about this topic.

No need to be rude to others.

I have read several of your comments and some are quite rude. We all have plenty of reasons to be angry about having tinnitus but insulting others is not the answer. It just makes you look bad.

 

Agreed, in as much as reading threads that discuss the "vaccines" are concerned. I'll take that on board.

True. Just like no one is forcing anyone to spread COVID-19 scare stories and pro-"vaccine" propaganda, and yet they're still doing it. Like the Texas Roadhouse CEO suicide article; it's been like a month since anybody posted that for the 1000th time. Can somebody get on that? like now?

I'm sorry you're going to have to be more specific, and maybe actually provide some examples.

Have I discouraged anyone (like you) from posting their personal experiences with the "vaccine"? or insulted them?

I have merely addressed misinformation from members like @linearb and @Jack Straw etc. who are encouraging people to get the vaccine by painting a false narrative of: COVID-19 is almost certainly going to destroy your ears, but safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines will almost certainly save them.

It's very presumptive of you to speak for others, regarding how I am viewed here. Some might even say "rude"...

 

Had my tinnitus followed a vaccine rather than a loud night out at a salsa club, you can bet your ass I'd have found a way to report it.

I get that some people may not report tinnitus after the vaccine. That's why I said let's assume the actual number is 100× higher than what's reported. Even then, it's still a very small percentage of people getting tinnitus after the vaccine.

You don't want to get vaxxed, cool. Do your thing man. I sincerely hope when you get COVID-19 you don't end up with a tinnitus spike or months of debilitating fatigue, smell and taste loss, brain fog, or any of the other horrible ailments many longhaulers are dealing with.

 

Same here, I was told if you don't get vaccinated you can't work, so I got vaccinated and the first dose has made the tinnitus worse. I'm now faced with the decision of taking second shot of vaccine or being unable to work.

 

The fatigue, brain fog, breathlessness, and pins and needles in my hands, was horrendous. I felt like a zombie for months, and to anyone who hasn’t experienced this, trust me, you don’t want to. As I was recovering, I wasn’t sure if I’d ever be the same again as I was in a constant state of extreme lethargy, confusion, and was always struggling to breathe. I also wasn’t sure if the pins and needles would go and it was affecting my business as I was struggling to play the guitar.

If you’re going to get it bad, you’re going to get it bad. I don’t think there is much you can do to help the severity short of taking a vaccine. I am pro-choice, though. If someone doesn’t want to take the vaccine, then I respect their right to refuse to put something they don’t want into their body. Where I draw the line is when the same people spread a load of misinformation all over the internet. The pseudoscience I’ve seen people use is absolutely cringeworthy and embarrassing in some instances. And when it comes to this site, I’ve noticed that everyone seems to be happy for pharmaceutical companies and the scientific community/academia to be involved with things like hearing regeneration and tinnitus, but when it comes to helping with COVID-19, they are the scum of the earth plotting against humanity. I see a lot of double standards.

 

It's a shame that your employer or your government forces you to get vaccinated.

I know many people who did not get vaccinated and have not caught COVID-19... why should they vaccinate? It's ridiculous. It should be a matter of personal choice.

 

What do you make of Singapore’s decision to make people pay for their COVID-19 medical bills if they refuse the vaccine without a good reason?

 

This is a Sophie's Choice of sorts. However, the bottom line is the risk of damage to your ears/tinnitus from actually getting COVID-19 is far worse than the risk of the vaccine creating issues. I totally get everyone's discomfort in getting the shots and boosters but common sense and logic dictate that it's better than getting severe COVID-19 for a multitude of reasons. Please do not skip the shots. We are all going to end up with COVID-19 eventually in some form or fashion. You want to make sure it isn't severe.

 

Honestly baffled we don’t have people posting their booster shot experience.

We only have a couple.

 

I did post but in another thread I think.

 

Yeah, you are one of the few who have.