Elon Musk’s Neuralink Looking to Treat Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Research News' started by Jack Straw, Jul 17, 2019.

    1. FGG
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      It is a breakthrough in some ways. Absolutely. I feel like it will be extremely useful for research and diagnostically for certain conditions. It has potential for treating certain conditions.

      My skepticism is only in sound quality because brainstem implants (given to people who have had their cochlea removed), transmit sound directly to the brainstem have abysmal sound quality because they lack the tuning functions of the cochlea. Maybe the right programs could circumvent this but this is something that hasn't, thus far, been fully worked out with otoacoustic research in general and in Neuralink's own animal studies, you can't get a head start on the programming because you can't ask the pig.

      I would feel better about the potential for Neuralink's hearing functions if they would address the otoacoustic challenges and how they plan to solve this because I feel otherwise that this tech is much further away for at least that use than presented and can't really even begin to be sorted out until human studies start.
       
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    2. frpp

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      Tmj, Nihl, ototoxic drugs, nerve/ vascular issues
      Still waiting for this, I 10000% will still ablate nerves, veins and entire ears if this thing works.
       
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    3. john paul
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      Something tells me Elon has been smoking a bit too much and this treatment will be available sometime around man's colonisation of Mars. Not for a while...
       
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    4. tommyd87

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      tmj music
      Not to mention the fact that real medicine is looking literally like it is going to be ready earlier and is probably more effective too.
       
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    5. frpp

      frpp Member

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      Hopefully this will allow nerves to be bypassed. First one getting cut out is lucky number 5, no more spasms and pain.
       
    6. asey20
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    7. Jrblovsky

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      NOISE/Menieres Who knows
      Tinnitus can be fatal as well. When it drives you to suicide. If Neuralink was proven to work, I'd do it tomorrow.
       
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    8. frpp

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    9. Sironketchup

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      Actually the more I read about it, I think Neuralink might very well be our cure.
      It will take longer to find a way to repair the ears than finding a way to switch it off inside of the brain.

      If they go on with the research, I image it to be ready in about 10 years. That's not so long guys. Better survive 10 years than offing yourself!
       
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    10. weab00
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      Based on what? FX-322 was not the smashing hit anyone here or at Frequency Therapeutics thought it was going to be. OTO-414 was delayed by a year or two. Other trials are still years behind. I'm not optimistic for Neuralink by the way, but I feel like the people making these kinds of statements are thinking with their hearts and not their heads.
      Elon keeps making super ambitious promises to please investors and get media publicity. No way a project of this scale is going to be clinically available in 10 years. Even 20 years is a stretch.
       
    11. OptimusPrimed
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      The data alone that Neuralink will provide regarding the function of the brain will advance the field of psychiatric treatment by many decades. Eventually someone with NIHL tinnitus will get it; and we will learn far more about the pathology of the disease.

      Stay positive my friend.
       
    12. Tezcatlipoca
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    13. tarmaced
      Wtf

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      But Elon is very good at commercialisation at scale.

      Also, the performance of all the rockets that exploded was rudimentary, until they didn't.
       
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    14. Brian Newman

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      Shooting/loud noise
      I think we have hope after seeing this video. I watched Elon and Joe Rogan talk more about Neuralink. Watch this video! He is claiming in 5-10 years language will be obsolete. Tinnitus is even stated in a list of cures for this chip. Imagine downloading a tinnitus program that completely wiped the noises from your brain.

      I am so much more optimistic about tinnitus treatments and cures after watching this video. Plus, I keep meeting people who got tinnitus from COVID-19! COVID-19 definitely is helping speed up the process because more and more people are aware of tinnitus. And with all these other companies working on treatments, there is no way there won't be anything in the next 5-10 years.

      Elon Musk Reveals New Details About Neuralink,...
       
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    15. Diesel

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      TBH, this outcome from COVID-19 infections may be the one thing that brings renewed attention to tinnitus and hearing loss. Especially if its a whole generation of younger people that do not typically make up a large percentage of the hearing loss / tinnitus population.
       
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    16. Tezcatlipoca
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      If a brain-computer interface is going to solve tinnitus, it's not going to be Elon's. His is one of the worst out there, he's just very famous.
       
    17. Gb3

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      He’s also very rich.
       
    18. Tezcatlipoca
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      Agreed, but with all his money and fanfare all he has to show is 90s era stuff. I guess the machines he built to implant BCIs are good.
       
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    19. Gb3

      Gb3 Member

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      I respectfully disagree.
       
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    20. Jebbis

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      Grimes has tinnitus. I'm sure Elon would love to fix it for her.
       
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    21. Brian Newman

      Brian Newman Member

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      Exactly, because most people under the age of 40 don’t even know what tinnitus is. COVID-19 and hearing loss is definitely in our favor. And I know there are other chips out there similar to Elon’s, I just hope something comes out so I don’t have to live my entire 20s suffering lol.
       
    22. AfroSnowman
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      I don’t know a good brain interface from a bad one. What makes Elon’s substandard?
       
    23. Tezcatlipoca
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      A quick Google search can answer that, sorry for an answer like this where something that is so obvious when you read the expert opinions I just don't want to waste time talking about it.
       
    24. Brian Newman

      Brian Newman Member

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      I think Neuralink is top notch because he has unlimited funding. When you have unlimited funding, the possibilities are endless. Most tinnitus or hearing loss research is all screwed because of funding. It’s always a topic.
       
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    25. AfroSnowman
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      I have to say your argument isn't terribly informative or convincing. Generally I have found Tinnitus Talk is a forum where people share knowledge and opinions they have derived from reading other people's research, therefore when you gave an option about Musk's tech being subpar I was curious as to the basic division in brain implant science.

      I can assure you for those of us that don't have a passing knowledge about brain implants nothing is obvious about the tech other than I guess that they stick stuff in your brain.

      Additionally I find it a little ironic that you take the time to tell me you don't have the time to waste answering my question...
       
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    26. Mentos

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      03/2015
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      Noise induced, loud rock concert
      Does he mention tinnitus in this interview? I couldn’t spot it while listening.
       
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    27. Gb3

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      Sshl
      I remember seeing tinnitus listed on a slide on one of their presentations. He was interviewed on the Joe Rogan Podcast and he said Neuralink would be used to help people hear again.
       
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    28. hurtingdream

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      01/2002. Became worse 11/29/2015.
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      Screenshot_20210603-161422~2.png
       
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    29. Gb3

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    30. Tezcatlipoca
      Question it

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      June 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      NIHL
      Whoosh.

      It's glaringly obvious lol, it's even got 420 in it.
       
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