I Invented a Sound That Knocked Out My Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by R. David Case, Dec 27, 2018.

    1. Uklawyer

      Uklawyer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Medication - antidepressants
      Thanks @EDDTEKK - did someone at Brai3n claim the 20% figure or are you surmising?
       
    2. EDDTEKK

      EDDTEKK Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      No, I just wrote what Brai3n told me.
       
    3. Uklawyer

      Uklawyer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Medication - antidepressants
      So 20% - hmmm. I wonder how many of their patients have tried it with the recommended protocol.
       
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    4. InfiniteLoop
      Relaxed

      InfiniteLoop Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Redwood City, California
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/21/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      High frequency hearing loss in left ear from head trauma (?)
      This is not better than any other sound therapy. If you have actual physiological hearing damage this will not work. In the 106 pages of this thread and more than two years of existence, there are just a few random, anecdotal reports that it might help.

      In summary, overrated and only maintained by continuous acts of faith by the sound file originator. This is not solution for the majority of tinnitus sufferers.

      Try at your own risk, and please post the lack of meaningful results beyond placebo and simple plain habituation. I acknowledge that anyone exposed to the Tinnitus Mix will find its own tinnitus to be nicer than that barrage of random noise.
       
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    5. ma7555
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      ma7555 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bupropion
      Should I try Tinnitus Mix with these headphones, Audio-Technica ATH-M50?

      Says they go up to 28 kHz.

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    6. GregCA
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      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      It's also not a particularly useful metric if you can't compare it to a control group.

      This post indicates better outcomes when you do nothing, so it's not unreasonable to think that this "treatment" could actually be making things worse.

      Not to mention that "being helped" is quite a vague statement. None of this seems very scientific, I'm afraid.
       
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      R. David Case

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      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      You must use one of these headphones or earbuds to see results. We believe the reason is only these are producing the ultra high harmonics through MAGNETOSTRICTION.

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      R. David Case

      R. David Case Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      First of all, none of you know what you are talking about, Dr. De Ridder only tested Tinnitus Mix on a few types of tinnitus and he is so busy I don't think he got my emails on the protocol on how to use the Koss headphones. In other words, if the headphones fall off in the middle of the night, then there will be no results. We have found putting sock hat over the headphones keeps them on. And if you cut a hole in a foam pillow you can sleep on your side with out headphones grinding into your ear.

      I have tested Tinnitus Mix not only on sound induced tinnitus but ALL forms of tinnitus and OTHER phantom sounds such as voices and hyperacusis.

      My results are for ALL PHANTOM SOUNDS, not just sound induced tinnitus. 40-50% OF ALL FORMS of tinnitus see good results when they follow the protocol.

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      R. David Case

      R. David Case Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      They did not follow the exact protocol because Dr. De Ridder did not answer my emails on the protocol. He is very busy and I think he has a secretary go through his emails before he sees them. Read my above post on details.
       
    10. Uklawyer

      Uklawyer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Medication - antidepressants
      Really? Were your emails setting out the protocol or asking for confirmation as to whether he had provided the protocol to the patients?

      Did Dr. De Ridder keep you appraised of the progress/results?
       
    11. EDDTEKK

      EDDTEKK Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I will give Tinnitus Mix another try. But first I will try some medication. If that doesn't work, I will do Tinnitus Mix again for a longer period like I did for Lenire (which did nothing for my tinnitus).

      I have to say that it is not easy to keep the headphones all night long on your ears. I need some solution here.
       
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      R. David Case

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      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      I have no Idea what protocol he told his patients to use, he just agreed to trial it. I am sure he is very busy as he is one of the world's top neurosurgeons and scientists.
       
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      R. David Case

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      1997
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      unknown
      To all of you haters and naysayers, @GregCA @InfiniteLoop and the rest.

      Tinnitus Mix is a success and you can't stop me from helping millions of people.

      My invention, Tinnitus Mix, has helped over 1400 people stop many phantom sounds and other conditions. It does not work on everyone but it does for an average of 40-50% of those that follow the protocol.

      Now the world's top expert on the subject, Dr. Dirk De Ridder is putting up his OWN MONEY to make a Spanish language website for Tinnitus Mix, along with one of his patients that had great success with Tinnitus Mix.

      Now Tinnitus Mix will be distributed to millions of people around the world, just as I had tried to do here on this forum but was met with fierce resistance to my efforts to help people for free.

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    14. EDDTEKK

      EDDTEKK Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Why don’t we conduct a study here on Tinnitus Talk? Find 30 patients and try it for 4 weeks with the recommended protocol. Then we will see the real results and ratio of success.
       
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    15. Uklawyer

      Uklawyer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2020
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      Medication - antidepressants
      David, I am asking what you wrote in your emails to the doctor about your protocol.

      Did you inform him of your protocol for your Tinnitus Mix?
       
    16. InfiniteLoop
      Relaxed

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      Location:
      Redwood City, California
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/21/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      High frequency hearing loss in left ear from head trauma (?)
      I am not a hater, I am just skeptical of your dubious methods and claims.

      Just a couple of messages ago you were renegading of Dr. De Ridder because he was likely not providing the right protocol as you wanted. In the next message, he is great again. In another recent message, you claim that not keeping the headphones all night long will disable the treatment. In the next message, you show someone with positive results not using the Koss headphones and using the files just a couple of hours during the day. It is just a continuous back and forth of contradictions and inconsistencies.

      Your file has nothing particular, instead of being random noise or shaped noise like in other treatments, it is basically long random repetitive patterns. There is nothing particular about the frequency content and has a very modest amount of high frequency noise above 12 kHz. What is the invention that you claim? The combination with the headphones has nothing special, and the whole theory about ultrasound resonant frequencies and magnetostriction is not proven and is only pseudoscience at this point (we have discussed this topic in many messages before). Yes, some people will respond positively because all the sound therapies have some level of success, and perhaps this one is marginally better than others.

      Try to get a patent on this method and I will assure that it will not pass examination. What will you be claiming besides magic?
       
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      R. David Case

      R. David Case Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      Yes, I emailed the protocol to him but he only responded to my emails once in a while making me think he did not get many of my emails. I understand he is busy and may have not got them. He may have a secretary that screens his emails and that would explain it. I am sure he is bombarded with random emails from thousands of people around the world.

      I just wish I could have worked closer to him in the study to help the patients deal with any problems like with headphones falling off in the night and the solutions we found in our test group (a sock hat or bandana to hold them in place and we found using a foam pillow with a hole in it made it much more comfortable when sleeping on your side).

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    18. star-affinity
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      Tinnitus Since:
      1993, increase in 2020, then new in 2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unsure about the first. Too many beers? Music during sleep.
      Sorry for jumping in, but I'm still a bit too scared to try sleeping with this since I'm afraid of making things worse.

      If I have more or less all of the symptoms described in the article posted here:

      That Ringing in Your Ears? Don't Assume It Will Just Fade Away

      ”If you’re unlucky, all it takes is one loud concert to spark a lifetime of ear problems — a constellation of symptoms that include not just hearing loss but also ringing in the ears, sound sensitivity, a feeling of aural fullness and even chronic ear pain.”

      I didn't go to a concert – I listened to music while sleeping at dB volume that in general seems considered harmless, but still seems my long term listening took me ”over the edge” and damaged my hearing and caused tinnitus and all the above. :(

      Do you still think it's okay to give this sound therapy a go? I have the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones. Maybe start with an hour how and see how the ears feels after that?

      I'm curios if you know of anyone who was successful using your mix and had all the symptoms I quoted above @R. David Case?

      Thanks in advance for any input!
       
    19. dan
      Chatty

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      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I invented a sound that tripled my tinnitus!
       
    20. AUTHOR
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      R. David Case

      R. David Case Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      Tinnitus Mix works well on sound induced tinnitus. I have helped many musicians stop their tinnitus. Yes you should get the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones and play on very low for a couple hours as a test. Then switch to all night every night for 3 weeks. Reactive tinnitus is the only condition that sound therapy is not recommended for.

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