Studies Confirm Tinnitus Improves Over Time

Discussion in 'Research News' started by gotyoubynuts, Jun 9, 2016.

    1. Paulmanlike

      Paulmanlike Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Nobody will know as there are no imaging tests to see inside the cochlear.

      Perhaps if you have no hearing loss including hidden hearing loss, then perhaps you could guess they are not too damaged. However even standard audiograms can't tell for sure if you're hearing is "perfect"
       
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    2. Steven T Abelt

      Steven T Abelt Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      scorpiantrucker@yahoo.com
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      I have had this ringing for over 25 years, it has gotten worse, Not better. My mother had it until she died. It drove her up the wall! Now my ringing has gotten worse. There really has to be a cure somewhere! IF anyone has ACTUALLY had any REAL improvement from doing or taking something, PLEASE tell me. If you Do NOT have an HONEST solution, leave me alone!
       
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    3. Ambassador
      Cool

      Ambassador Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      June 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      High frequency hearing loss and lifetime noise exposure
      You asked for an honest solution...park the bike.
       
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    4. Freeatlast

      Freeatlast Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Sound
      So it means that if you have some hearing loss in one ear, that's saying if you don't hear 19000 hz frequency with earplugs on, it means that your hair cells might be gone? And will an audiologist also look if you got hidden hearing loss?
       
    5. Freeatlast

      Freeatlast Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Sound
      I'm sorry for your suffering. Do you also got hearing loss? Wish you well
       
    6. Paulmanlike

      Paulmanlike Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
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      Noise
      An audiologist will use a standard audiogram (250-8khz). That is within the normal range of hearing conversation etc. They won't test above 8khz because we don't really need those frequencies in everyday life. An audiologist is only there to sell you hearing aids and they may only benefit those who have hearing loss between 250-8khz)

      My audiogram came back fine, that's not to say I don't have hearing loss for say in the 11khz region, where a hearing aid would not benefit me.
       
    7. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Sustained hearing loss is the main indicator. If you have no hearing loss I wouldn't worry about it.
       
    8. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Wrong terminology. I don't mean damaged.
       
    9. Tinker Bell

      Tinker Bell Member Hall of Fame

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      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSHL from virus
      Not entirely true. My audiologist tested my hearing above 8k and the hearing aid that I tried was programmed for up to 12k.

      That said, you're absolutely correct that normal conversations typically fall under 8k. But hearing aid technology has advanced to include higher frequencies.
       
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    10. Freeatlast

      Freeatlast Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Sound
      So what did you mean:)? Have you got any supporting science papers for this?
       
    11. EatMoTacos
      No Mood

      EatMoTacos Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud Music
      I just want to give my 2cents on this study:

      Yes it can improve over time

      and

      No sometimes it stays the same

      I really think it depends on the person honestly and how they react to T and H. For me, it all started when I was 13 from a firework accident. I had no clue what this was and eventually like the study says it gets better over time. I didn't hear it full on until I was about 27 (34 now). When it did come full on, I didn't know what to do, I tried looking for help from doctors and people and by that time my father and mother have already had it (10+ years). I didn't see an ENT almost 3 months later until he gave me steroids on my first on set. Did they help? I don't know. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. But it was during this time I stayed busy with my life. Graduated as an Electrical Engineer with a second degree in Computer Science. Then I started my first job out of college (still working here 7 years later).

      Because of my job, I was exposed to loud noises, 2+ hour helicopter flights, over seas travels, diesel Engine rooms, offshore work, etc. But the one thing I always wore were my musician ear plugs ALL the time during my work. And guess what. I did not have any effect on my T, at all no increase at all it stayed the same.

      As a matter of fact, my T was very unique in a way that I pretty much drank what I wanted and ate what I wanted to the point of which I barely noticed any changed based on food or diet (of course I tried to eat healthy as much as I could but offshore food is soo damn good lol) but I drank moderately and I enjoyed my life. (had plenty of drunken nights).

      Until 6 weeks ago, I sensed an increase in pitch and loudness. How can I tell, well certain areas in my house I couldn't hear it and others I could. And well now, I hear it pretty much 80% of the time. Since my increase I've had 2 days where it seemed to go back to baseline(normally what it was) but my PT in my left ear (since 2007) is a roller coaster (that is a whole new world LOL).

      But in my case it did get better, and I pray that it does. In the mean time I will work on my circuit designs, build my drones, go fishing on my bass boat and enjoy life in general. But one thing I will never give up is my boooooze.

      Sorry T, but booze comes first, then supplements. :p
       
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    12. carlover
      English

      carlover Member Benefactor

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      ......and sometimes after 25 years it really kicks in
       
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    13. Flamingo1

      Flamingo1 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Orlando, FL
      Tinnitus Since:
      4-15-2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      I'm sorry to hear that. Was there any event that you remember which precipitated your T beginning more constant 6 weeks ago?
       
    14. EatMoTacos
      No Mood

      EatMoTacos Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud Music
      Yeah. I just went out with friends, wasn't loud at all. Had a few to drinks like usual. Only difference that day was I took Allegra-D because I was super congested. Following morning I felt a threshold shift in my hearing mainly on my right side. Then came the sudden increase in my T. I took two courses of prednisone and all it did was made my ears super pressured and painful. I stopped it because it made me feel even worse. I'm still getting super sharp ear pains since taking the prednisone and I feel a bit of slight fullness.

      Threshold shift seems to be gone but I'm stuck with a intrusive T now. So begins my new journey of it will improve over time now...
       
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    15. Flamingo1

      Flamingo1 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Orlando, FL
      Tinnitus Since:
      4-15-2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      Wow, that's very mysterious. Hopefully, it will subside soon.
       
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    16. vermillion
      Whistles

      vermillion Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Possibly from Fluconazole / H + Dysacusis later on
      Despite the term "neurotic", the paper is very interesting. Let's say tinnitus took already root in the brain due to bad mentality. From there? Does this get worse and worse? Is it like a limit that once crossed you get in a very bad place, even if you manage to reduce your stress? Who knows. I though tinnitus was always in the brain btw. Not that it establish its presence gradually in the brain.
       
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    17. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

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      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      I loathe the term "neurotic" because it has such a negative connotation. It's an incredibly unhelpful tag to have, because people will be dismissive of you as a neurotic and lay all the blame there.

      I don't believe that it's a foregone conclusion that it gets worse if you have that particular tendency. Certainly you can look around at many members who have gone into full blown panic mode with loads of postings, who then get through it and leave the forum.

      Not being a professional I can only speculate and give what I personally think happens but I see tinnitus as having an initial causation (or a number of causes), which generate the phantom signal in the brain. This becomes listened to and if you don't get it early enough becomes kind of normalised and rooted in the brain. This is the point where you could treat the initial cause but probably still have tinnitus (though likely to a lesser degree) - the chronic phase. At this phase you have two hurdles, removing or treating the cause/s then encouraging plasticity so you can un-train tinnitus from the brain.

      It's harder to treat but that doesn't mean it is untreatable or inevitably going to get worse. There are no firm rules with tinnitus, it's too different for each of us to say where each path leads.
       
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    18. Lucky

      Lucky Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Fuck knows
      Brilliantly written well done.
       
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    19. Lucky

      Lucky Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Fuck knows
      Yes BS and a disgrace for an organisation that is meant to be there for us suffering with torture.
       
    20. TheDanishGirl
      Sad

      TheDanishGirl Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2017 (H since 06/2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Well, almost 3 months in and now i can definitly say my noise induced T has improved slightly :)
       
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    21. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      That's good news Sandra. You will continue to make improvement just don't stop believing, even in the downtimes if they arrive.
      Michael
       
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    22. TheDanishGirl
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      TheDanishGirl Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2017 (H since 06/2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term noise exposure (headphones), maybe some stress.
      Will do, and again thanks for the great support and advice Michael! :)
       
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    23. Nick07
      Balanced

      Nick07 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      possibly noise or unknown
      I've never seen any evidence that the brain hears the tinnitus and then over time decides to produce the signal without hearing it. It doesn't exactly make sense. Something creating the signal makes sense (i.e. nerve damage).
       
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    24. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      With respect @Nick07 you have much to learn about the brain and tinnitus. Please click on my "started threads" and read some of my posts. Starting with my article: Tinnitus, A Personal View, you will begin to understand.

      All the best
      Michael
       
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    25. Nick07
      Balanced

      Nick07 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      possibly noise or unknown
      You do realize that thread has nothing to do with tinnitus moving to brain as people say.
       
    26. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Sorry I don't quite follow what you mean?
       
    27. DKinTheWoodlands

      DKinTheWoodlands Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1980
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ?
      I've been suffering since 1980. It has only increased, albeit slowly, ever since. The last 6 months has been trying....
       
    28. Vicki14
      Panicky

      Vicki14 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      January 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress
      This is what set me back too after doing so well!!! I just do understand why this procedure is permitted on T patients when there are such risks!!!! I have so much resentment for the Audiologist who did this even as he reassured me there were NO risks! Makes me so mad! :( x
       
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    29. Vicki14
      Panicky

      Vicki14 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      January 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress
      ^don't! :)
       
    30. Blue28
      Doubtful

      Blue28 Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      I totally agree...my tinnitus was CAUSED BY MICROSUCTION! I also have hyperacusis and hearing loss due to this procedure. The whole thing is killing me and the resentment I feel is overwhelming. Like @Vicki14, the ENT who did this procedure didn't mention side effects. In fact when I complained he said the treatment was completely safe and couldn't possibly have caused my hearing problems! He said my T must have been brought on by psychological issues...WTF!!!!! I am 16 months in and it's no better, only seems to get worse with any noise (everyday normal noise).
       
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