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Discussion in 'Support' started by jeremy06, Oct 14, 2018.

    1. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      Most people who discuss (their) tinnitus are perfectly sane. That changes when they talk about politics.

      (You can accept that as a joke if you want).
       
    2. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      get a disability lawyer and vote democrat.
       
    3. FGG
      No Mood

      FGG Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Multi-factorial
      I believe he is Canadian.
       
    4. just1morething
      Benevolent

      just1morething Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      It started
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck
      What’s wrong with the Don........? I feel some backlash already. Do the democrats treat the disabled better?
       
    5. FGG
      No Mood

      FGG Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Multi-factorial
      From what I understand, prior to Trump the requirements to get on disability were easier. You basically had to prove you couldn't do your former job.

      Now you have to basically prove you can't do any job (so even people with severe tinnitus or hyperacusis could say get a job where they are by themselves in a controlled environment) so this is pretty much people with a full time caretaker or the mentally ill.

      There are exceptions if you have children, though. But if you don't, you will be pretty much confined to poverty many times without healthcare.

      And don't forget the ACA's pre-existing condition clause was a democratic endeavor as well.
       
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    6. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      I find it offensive how they are so obsessed with treating depression and anxiety but not anything to do with biological damage elsewhere in the body.

      They love to call anything outside of their discipline irrelevant. I'm sick of psychological resilience propaganda. The only reason I am disgruntled with psychology is because of it's arrogant history.
       
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    7. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      The mentally ill are denied because they do not have cognitive impairments but rather thought, emotional and sensory impairments.
       
    8. FGG
      No Mood

      FGG Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Multi-factorial
      I guess I should clarify and say "so mentally ill that you would be a hazard to an employer."
       
    9. MrCrybaby

      MrCrybaby Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2014, 10/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      School Band, Acoustic Trauma
      Sleep breathing disorders (OSA, UARS, etc) constantly get misdiagnosed as anxiety and depression (and ADHD in children) leaving patients to suffer indefinitely, never getting the treatment they need. It’s especially messed up when kids who can’t sleep properly are put on amphetamines, what a dumpster fire.

      Mental health visibility is great, but the medical community needs to realize that emotional distress can be a symptom of physical health problems.
       
    10. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      Correct. I guess he was happy during the Obama administration. It was so great then, that another Democrat was voted in... oh wait.
       
    11. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      to be fair the spike in biomedical sciences didn't spike until 2016.

      Trump cut regulations that's why things are speeding up. Corporations don't take risk if they are heavily restrained.
       
    12. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      America is insane for not having a partial disability system like some European countries. It is true some state Governments have small benefits but not all of them.
       
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    13. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      Wrong. I have discussed this issue here with people from Europe. It's not any better than the USA or Canada. For disability, you need a physical disability THAT CAN BE SEEN. Failing that, you need support from psychiatrists, most who cannot relate to your situation or don't have insight on tinnitus beyond the typical generalized explanation on hearing clinic sites.

      The process is long and it's not supportive for tinnitus sufferers no matter where you live. There's no benefit for it even if you live in a country with subsidized healthcare and the Welfare state.
       
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    14. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      In America you are either 100% enabled and forced to work full time regardless of health complications or 100% disabled and any form of work means ZERO benefits.

      That is literally how SSI is set up. When state Governments give benefits it varies among each state. The most conservative states probably have no such thing.
       
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    15. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      tinnitus can be seen on certain EEG's. Hyper activity in the audiotory brain/dorsal cochlear nucleus is visible.

      No one test for that because no one takes science and empirical diagnosis seriously.
       
    16. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      How long does it take to get it once you file the paperwork? How long does the process take until money is deposited to your account?
       
    17. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      Do experts arrange for tinnitus sufferers to obtain an EEG? No.

      Nothing is set up or structured to help tinnitus sufferers with disability applications. It doesn't matter if you live in Canada, USA, Denmark, Germany or Australia. I think some guy on here claims it's easier in the UK but readers should be able to recognize a pattern here. A physical disability must be witnessed (I.e. mobility problem) or a mental illness must be demonstrated by medical documentation. I don't know about there but in socialist Canada, the process is long, unsupportive and tinnitus sufferers have no help in getting it.
       
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    18. dan
      Chatty

      dan Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      In Canada you need to talk to a psychologist for 16 minutes, ball your eyes out, say you wish for death every single day and he will write you a medical opinion you are unfit to work.
      Your primary doc report isn't enough.
      I agree severe tinnitus in and of itself isn't considered an automatic disability anywhere... Although I did know a guy from Wisconsin who told his doctor he has severe tinnitus and she got him approved for disability benefits first try...

      I really don't get why medical community underplays severe/catastrophic tinnitus.
      Not our fault EEG isn't standard for diagnosis in 2020. EEG is old school, better imaging technologies exist for brain mapping. There is qEEG with Loreta... magnetic imaging... etc.
      Tinnitus hyperactivity is very visible.
       
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    19. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2011
      Here in Australia getting approved for disability is almost equal to winning lotto.

      Disability for tinnitus... disability for what?????
       
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    20. bobvann
      Fiendish

      bobvann Member

      Location:
      Inside the vortex
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      E drums headphones
      I have been told by several medical professional (including my former GP who attends my workplace) "Nothing can be done for tinnitus" My current GP only had "a lot of people are getting that."

      I thought of going to ER and asking for psych help stating I can't take living like this anymore. Refrained from doing so figuring they would just pump me with poisonous meds.. We truly are doomed.
       
    21. FGG
      No Mood

      FGG Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Multi-factorial
      @dan

      Did the guy from Wisconsin have kids by any chance? I was told this was a way to get approved when you would otherwise get denied because they are worried about the economic instability's effects in the children.
       
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    22. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      Why do doctors not keep up to date with research? It makes no sense.

      They are literally stuck in 2003 as research takes 17 years to translate from the clinic to them.
       
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    23. DaveFromChicago

      DaveFromChicago Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Headcold/Flu
      The only positive recourse I have been allowed was when a letter to the City of Chicago Courts from my audiologist describing the extent of my tinnitus got me exempted from jury duty. When I had to go a few years ago the high pitched tea kettle sound made by the building's heating system matched exactly my internal tinnitus. And believe me, this had to rank as one of my ultimate, merciless all-time torture sessions.

      Julian Cowan Hill has said that you should regard tinnitus as only a small fish in the total pond of your awareness. The imbecile nature of his analogy is revealed when instead of a small fish tinnitus turns into a great white shark.
       
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    24. Harley

      Harley Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      Intelligence insulting habituation clowns such as Julian Cowan Hill are part of the reason why nobody takes tinnitus sufferers seriously.
       
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    25. dan
      Chatty

      dan Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Nope, no kids.
      32 yr old from Janesville, WI.
      Married, no kids.
       
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    26. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      I really don't think CBT is the problem. If CBT was defacto from the start, research would have been ongoing. CBT didn't hold back research like TRT did.

      TRT is the problem. It was 3x times as expensive as CBT and it made pseudoscientific and controversial claims about treating hyperacusis and Jastreboff has shown incompassion criticizing the disabled who are suffering.

      Jastreboff represents a perfect example of 20th century behaviorist psychology. Literally a living fossil.
       
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    27. serendipity1996

      serendipity1996 Member Podcast Patron

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown but suspect noise-induced
      Hyperacusis no longer causing issues in everyday life and feels almost 'normal' but not quite as I still have intermittent facial symptom.
      Normal environment noise (insidr and outside) = fine
      Phone calls/speaker = fine
      Radio = fine

      But laptop speakers = still a bit problematic. I still get facial tension + overall face and ear tightness after like 30 mins. Granted it's pretty mild and doesn't really result in that horrible burning ear pain wind-up but it's enough to leave my ears/face feeling somewhat...tender. It's definitely still milder than it used to be but it's just taking absolutely ages to go away. Funny how my ears can handle some forms of processed artificial sound e.g phone calls but laptop speakers even at a lower volume are still more troublesome.
       
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    28. Darren H

      Darren H Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/11
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      If you were profoundly deaf at any frequency within normal speech range you would know all about it. I suffered SSHL in my right ear a month ago, I've improved a bit since this audiogram was taken but there are plenty of every day noises I hear with my left ear and not at all with my right, e.g birds tweeting. Its particularly noticeable when I watch a movie. I watched Chain Reaction (Keanu Reeves & Morgan Freeman) duing my HBOT session yesterday and there were so many sounds picked up in my left ear not at all picked up in my right
       

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    29. Bartoli

      Bartoli Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2009,worsened 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Might be a good idea to check whether it's because of the speech in phone calls versus music from the laptop. Or maybe you mean conference calls via laptop?

      Could be your particular laptop speakers too? Sound quality isn't exactly at the top of the priority list when laptops get designed and built to meet a certain price point. Same goes for phones so in your particular case it's odd, but maybe check with someone else's laptop?
       
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    30. serendipity1996

      serendipity1996 Member Podcast Patron

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown but suspect noise-induced
      Yeah I think it's definitely something to do with the speaker quality on my laptop- it's got that typical low-quality 'tinny' sound. Before my setback I didn't have any issues with it but now the sound quality feels kind of abrasive and scratchy after like half an hour of listening. I just got a new phone like a month ago so the speaker quality is probably way better.
      Hopefully this will all resolve soon.
       

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